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And when you chose to live in an urban area you chose to have price increases because these farmers can't get in contact with WALM*RT to send their pricing in to compete with the other carriers.

Thank you very much, so sick of this rural argument. In order for this country to survive people have noticed that oh hey we need to adapt. In order for these farmers to adapt they have went with DirectWay or Wildblue only to find out about those ugly FAP's.

Not to mention I don't see anyone putting a cattle farm in the middle of the city...

Sorry not really geared to you but I saw it fit here before this urban sacrifice went out of hand lol.

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reply to Clever_Proxy
Thats the problem. The interweb should not be an "urban convenience".

I mean, they make owners of buildings remodel to conform with ADA regulations when there is NOBODY in a wheelchair for miles. I would be more apt to classify a big wide wheelchair ramp with bumpy yellow grippy things at the bottom to be more of an urban convenience, when the old setup was just fine.

I understand things change... but its stupid to continue to use the same old "urban convenience" argument. This is 2009, not 1999. There should be adequate connections available everywhere.

Hell, I just got DSL back in May. Took a lot of bitching to make it happen too. I live 8 miles outside the city limits of the capitol of the State of Florida. Not a rural area by any means, but wtf? There are PLENTY of folks in a similar situation... not far from "urban", but also not near "rural". Time to start expanding.
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reply to screavic4
I live about 7 miles from a major town. Through that down runs Internet2 fiber.. that is to the east. I am part of ATT terroritory, and they have placed absolutely no investment. Just to the north less than 4 miles is a rural telco. They have just replaced their copper with Fiber to the home... but because I am stuck in ATT territory the only thing I can get is a T-1. I am hoping that Verizon LTE will finally give us a affordable form of Internet.

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I have to agree with you on that last part especially, I'm 8 miles from Little Rock, AR capital city, .5 miles from end of Comcast and 3 miles from DSL the other direction. I use Verizon Wireless net previously alltel connection is hit or miss and isn't always the best speed.

My friend lives in the city limits and the best he can get is 1.5 down (i think it's closer to 768 down and 100 up).
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Same issue here, fiber runs right by our house but as far as I know unless they changed it our main terminal is still on copper. The Fiber runs to feed the next town over. ATT here too

I called to pay to get a DSLAM installed but they don't do that so my business is saving up for Comcast if they will still come here.

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reply to aSic
No I agree. I'm not trying to justify the lack of broadband in rural areas. Maybe my first post was a little too vague. Even when I lived in the far suburbs of Chicago, I wasn't able to get any kind of decent broadband until 2006. Broadband IS starting to appear in more rural areas, but the progress does suck.

I knew what you mean though

Another thing I hate it when they compare our broadband status to other nations like Japan and China, look at the number of people they have per square mile compared to the US. We are spread out and we have ALOT of land.

I think the idea of country competition should drop and we should just do it and do it right. It's not always about the best speed, I would be happy for a 1.5 connection as long as I could get up in the morning and check my email without having to reconnect or even restart the server cause the wireless hardware isn't up to par on the carriers network.

The idea of caps has to be looked at too cause broadband caps isn't going to do anything but hurt the broadband idea anyways with new ideas such as Video on Demand and VoIP evolving so quickly but yet the caps seem to get smaller and smaller. They could do a budget plan for the average user then step up on plans with the max being unlimited cap for reasonable pricing.

Man I must be in a venting mood lol
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Is county considered rural area?

reply to aSic
I know two guys in a similar pickle... one is within the city limits and Embarq said that service wasn't available. Fortunately, he was able to get broadband with Comcast. The other guy is in Leon County (but not in Tallahassee) and his only internet option is satellite

One other family in Wakulla just recently got Comcast. Broadband coverage is truly swiss cheese in these parts!!

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reply to Madtown
Depends..... Queens, NY can be technically called a county, but it is one of the five boroughs of NYC, and it sure as hell is pretty densely populated.....
It really comes down to specific population/general layout of the area I guess....

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reply to fifty nine
10mb.. how about we take baby steps... all I want is 1.5mb without paying 300/mo.

reply to screavic4
I see. So you want to make your choice and not have to make any sacrifice and want it all.

So how do you handle the delimma when you want both Chicken and Steak for dinner but your poor little tummy isn't big enough for both?

Point being.... everyone has choices in life. Those choices generally mean you are sacrificing X for Y. Rural people make the choice to live the life of isolation and the lack of convenience that comes with it. Urban people have made the choice to live the life of convenience over isolation.

I personally have not seen a single innovation in "farming" that has done anything beneficial to society beyond raise the prices and introduce chemicals to our land and bodies that do more harm than good. But of course those things are what give us the millionaire farmers so.......

Have you looked at the price of farm equipment lately? I'm not talking about a tiller from your local hardware store. I'm talking about a full all out Combine setup for every task the farmer needs. That is why the price goes up, not to mention the demand for these goods have increased while the number of farms producing food have dropped.

Now big companies require all these changes that farmers are having to adapt to in order to keep selling their food.

How am I making a sacrifice? I guess your talking about me being all jacked up from the Army and living on disability... Yeah that is a sacrifice I took and now i'm paying for it.

I live just 8 miles from the city, I'm far from Rural by the "rules" they were trying to place to define rural and I still don't have broadband.

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Point being.... everyone has choices in life. Those choices generally mean you are sacrificing X for Y. Rural people make the choice to live the life of isolation and the lack of convenience that comes with it. Urban people have made the choice to live the life of convenience over isolation.

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I personally have not seen a single innovation in "farming" that has done anything beneficial to society ...

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...beyond raise the prices...

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...and introduce chemicals to our land and bodies that do more harm than good.

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Could not have said it better myself. thanks.
We can't bitch about lack of broadband where we choose to live, but them city folks sure can bitch about caps and faps.