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CRTC Haters - Help Mlerner Cram for Interview on CRTC

I just performed a random sampling of all the comments the crtc has posted on the case. There were 6270 unique names on the list, after removing duplicates. I used a random number generator to give me 147 random comments, enough to ensure my stats are within 8%, 19 times out of 20. (5% would need a couple hundred more, maybe later!)

So the results:
Anti Bell/crtc/UBB: 146 (99.3%)
Pro Bell/crtc/UBB: 0 (0%)
Blank entry: 1 (0.7%)

I didn't perform sampling btw

reply to backness
More of a talking point, but this most recent decision specifically mentions that is to bring it in line with the TPIA (cable internet wholesale) decision. It may be worth mentioning that competition in the cable internet market is almost non-existent.

reply to backness

reply to backness
1. Bell, Rogers, Cogeco drops a percentage of packets to slow down how fast you can upload or download (this is how throttling works). Packets that never make it to its destination.

Result, you send or receive a 5-gig file and they charge your for over 7-gig.

With UBB in place The Bell's in Canada not only charge you for the B/W, they are charing you for the b/w they just threw away on you.

(in simple terms, they are dropping +30% of the packets and making you pay for the packets they drop)

In TSI's case this is now a triple dip.

TSI will add this to your bill courtesy of Bell Canada.

2. Since Bell, Rogers, Cogeco can't calculate B/W properly as seen throughout their own forums, and since Weights and Measures Canada (another Industry Canada branch) refuses to step in, people are being over-charged on B/W. This is a known fact that can be seen in these forums.

Result: quadrupole dip.

Rape, Rape, Rape, and more financial Rape with the government allowing it to happen.

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2009/2009-484.htm

^^ Quick Reference to the CRTC Decision in question

reply to backness
not really thinking about it but CRTC is crap:
- FCC has device mandates to try and give consumers choice (at least one digital receiver has to have firewire port active for other devices; cable card) while CRTC completely ignores consumers.
- CRTC cancom regulations are completely stupid; syfy (scifi) is available in 50 countries - while not allowed to be broadcast in Canada - yet they probably spend more on producing programs in Vancouver Canada than Space spends - so just because you are Canadian owned - you are allowed to screw the people.
- Now they are moving towards potentially allowing carriage fees for companies that are fraudulently claiming that they must be paid for Cable to carry them - they are focused on direct and not cable - guess what - not a single HDTV broadcaster in Toronto is more than 3 watts of power; US stations in Buffalo - on the low end are 500 watts - yet the CRTC is going to fall for this fraud.
- In a competitive environment, weak companies fail - not a single station has failed - why - it is because the CRTC is out there trying to subsidize large companies by forcing you the customer to subscribe to a bunch of stations - that are no more than just rebroadcasting from other stations they own - to the detriment of the consumer that is forced to pay for all this crap.

reply to backness
I have no idea how accurate this is but this is the rough costs Ive seen posted before.

$21 per customer for Gateway access service

$1200 for a link to gas (each link is 1gigabit I believe teksavvy has 8 of these)

Im sure theres way more fees too but this is just what comes to mind.

Plus all of teksavvy's costs, Transit colocation,routers software licences.

Its amazing that they can even offer this for $30 a month as it is.

reply to backness
Thanks guys, this is a big help! I am trying to fit all this in my notes.

reply to backness
- CRTC fumble with the privacy of public's fully contact info making them available on website.
- CRTC's do not call list has too many exceptions. Also the irony of the list itself being used as calling list by direct marketing companies in the states.

- look at all of recent U.S. vs CRTC decisions on Net Neutrality, Throttling and Pay per Usage. Pretty much FCC made all the right calls and CRTC screwed up every single one of them. Might as well just use the FCC's regulations here.

reply to mlerner
Not to mentin the FCC actually fined comcast and forced them into protocol agnostic throttling, whereas the CRTC simply rubber-stamped Bell Canada's throttling.
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oO that's a good one

reply to backness
Might be worth having a few answers to "what else can people do?" Where they can complain, who they can write to, etc. Maybe mention that letters can be sent to the Parliament Hill office of any MP postage free.

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reply to backness
Also, some examples of network management in other countries, such as the 30gb daily upload limit in Japan (»arstechnica.com/old/content/2008···aily.ars) or even the 250gb limit from Comcast.

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reply to backness

Bell insurance: 40GB = $5 12.5cents per Gig

Bell Wholesale of Gigabytes over 300GB = 75cents wholesale

Quebec Ontario = 19Million people

Population of Canada = 31 Million

Aprox 64% of the country lives under these rules and it costs even more in Quebec

reply to mlerner

said by mlerner:

Thanks guys, this is a big help! I am trying to fit all this in my notes.

reply to backness
Remember you're talking to the media which also means brief and (hopefully) irrefutable soundbites.
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