 rsa0
join:2003-01-25
Birmingham, AL | reply to Romney2012
Re: Link to original story mentioned here Man, I want their business model !!! must be great: screw your paying customers and get away with that !!!!
But then I guess , being Europe, one won't have much of a choice if they want to go with some other ISP... |
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Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
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kudos:4 | said by rsa0:Man, I want their business model !!! must be great: screw your paying customers and get away with that !!!! But then I guess , being Europe, one won't have much of a choice if they want to go with some other ISP... The EU has many ISP competitors for internet access, just like the US does. So customers can go elsewhere. And I expect their throttling plan will be modified BEFORE it is implemented.
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said by rsa0:Man, I want their business model !!! must be great: screw your paying customers and get away with that !!!! But then I guess , being Europe, one won't have much of a choice if they want to go with some other ISP... You want to hear about rationing? My dad lives in the Caribbean. No, not the touristy parts that Americans see.
He pays quarterly water bills at a flat rate. At first he was getting a full supply of water every day, then that changed to twice a week, now the water doesn't even make it up to his house. Yet the water bills are still due no matter what. And if you don't pay? The water utility has the right to seize your property, sell it and take the proceeds.
And no, you can't opt out. If you live within a certain distance (I think it's 2km) of a water pipe you have to take or pay for service.
The Government owns the water utility so they have the full force of the law behind them. How pathetic is that?
I think that ISPs are definitely headed in that direction. "best effort" service really means half assed. Then they start with caps, then throttling, then rationing. Pretty soon they'll promise one thing and deliver maybe 10% of it, then gradually close to 0% of it. All in the name of "network management" or some other lousy excuse. |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | reply to Romney2012
said by Romney2012:The EU has many ISP competitors for internet access, just like the US does. So customers can go elsewhere. And I expect their throttling plan will be modified BEFORE it is implemented. That's what I was wondering: how competitive is this? Who could make such a policy in a competitive environment. They have to have some lock on their market or the users will flee.
Meanwhile, time to make everything on the net use HTTP, web site or not.
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 jlivingoodPremium,VIP
join:2007-10-28
Philadelphia, PA
kudos:1 | I believe this is actually a fairly common network management practice in European (and possibly other) markets. For example, "SamKnows" did a study of UK ISPs last summer that revealed this behavior in a some UK ISPs. (SamKnows is used extensively by Ofcom, the UK equivalent of the FCC.) You can find this study here if you are interested: »www.samknows.com/broadband/pm/PM···r_08.pdf - see page 43's conclusions.
A year and a half ago when we developed our new congestion management system, we looked at this style of system, where all non-HTTP traffic is throttled to a set speed at certain peak hours -- and we took a different path as many of you know.
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jlivingoodPremium,VIP
join:2007-10-28
Philadelphia, PA
kudos:1 | said by sonicmerlin:The UK is significantly different than the leading countries of Europe. like Sweden. No doubt. The Swedish IPRED law seems to have had interesting effects on traffic patterns, and has helped to invigorate apps like Spotify and other services. »torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-law···-090402/
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