Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO in HughesNet Satellite

Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO in HughesNet Satellite http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22924351 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:38:16 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:38:16 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22973713 dbirdman : I would generally advise EVDO over satellite as long as two conditions are met:

EVDO is actually available in the service area (I think a lot of people would be surprised at the millions of square miles it is not in this country, even with external antenna and amplifier), and

Usage will generally be under the 5GB per month. The providers, when purchased direct (not through Millenicom) don't throttle or terminate anymore, they just charge. And charge. And charge. Use a couple of extra GB and you WILL be sorry!

I use my Sprint and iDirect connections on a "whatever works best" basis. When I'm in an EVDO area I push my VPN out through the air card, and also use it to do any secure sites, but I run everything else through iDirect as a rule because it has better speeds and no caps.

The Hughes connection is primarily for testing, but comes in handy when there is no EVDO and the iDirect dish is blocked by trees. With possible lookangles to 83, 105, and 121 I can usually find a hole somewhere.

I maintain that you can never have too much internet! :)
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Motosat self-pointing dishes: 1.2-meter XF-3 on 105W or 121W, .74 meter G74 on 83W, SL-5 HD DirecTV|idirect 3100|Hughes HN7000S|Sprint Air Card|1990 Blue Bird Wanderlodge Bus "Blue Thunder"|Author of PC-OPI and DSSatTool]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22973713 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:22:39 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22973361 compuguybna : I currently have a Millenicom (Verizon) Mobile broadband USB card, and it works alot better than Hughes.

No contract, No taxes, no repair bills, no tech support you can't understand, no deliberate slowdown during 4pm -12am...the list goes on.

I am finally happy that I found a service that's fast and relilable.

4 months going.....not a single issue.

(with HughesNet, it was TWO accounts in 3 months, and the only response I ever got was "Accept the service with its flaws, or cancel. Speeds and service levels are not guaranteed". Thank goodness, I was offered a change to cancel and get out of this mess, TWICE).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22973361 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:13:11 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22970263 FAPman : I had Verizon when the they first offered this. I bought my card outright at $380 and $80 a month. After 8 months into the contract they decided to cancel it because they determined me to be a high bandwidth user. No notice just didn't work one day. Had to pay cancellation fees and all that other good stuff.

I think Verizon made a good move to put a 5GB cap and a month-to month contract on their service instead of what I experienced. I see Sprint doing this also in the near future when all the Verizon people jump ship.

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nevermind just checked sprint site they already did it same 5GB cap]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22970263 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:11:17 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22969734 compuguybna : Millenicom has a VERY STRICT policy about the 5gb cap now.
Its clearly posted on the website now.

If you go over 5gb, you are prime target for throttling to 200Kbps for 4 weeks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22969734 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:30:56 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22927217 dbirdman : Millenicom resells both Verizon and Sprint, depending on which works in your area. They've recently been forced to start enforcing the 5GB cap on Verizon, but not on Sprint.

The only advantage of Millenicom (and it can be a decent advantage, depending) with Verizon is you don't get tied into a contract but are month-to-month.

I use a lot of different connections, including Hughes and a Sprint air card. I am always connected to at least two at one time, and juggle them using "route add" and "route delete" statements (semi-automated via batch files.

That allows me to have all of my traffic flow through a specific connection, or have traffic for specific IP ranges I use a lot flow through one connection while other traffic flows through another connection.

You do need to know what you are doing, but it works well.
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Motosat self-pointing dishes: 1.2-meter XF-3 on 105W or 121W, .74 meter G74 on 83W, SL-5 HD DirecTV|idirect 3100|Hughes HN7000S|Sprint Air Card|1990 Blue Bird Wanderlodge Bus "Blue Thunder"|Author of PC-OPI and DSSatTool]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22927217 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:31:10 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22925924 zvolts : I can't speak for others (nor should anybody else), but I generally get very close to my plan's 1.2Mbps downstream on my HN Ka band connection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22925924 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:46:06 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22925707 anon : Ive heard that Millenicom resells sprint. If its sprint Im boned as I am outside of sprint coverage. Verizon however Im covered and there is a tower being put up 5-10 ish miles from my house. I didn't realize that Hughesnet bandwidth restrictions were so out of control.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22925707 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:56:13 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22924793 leet :

said by Discogodfath :

I live ina rural area where I can't get DSL or Cable without paying ludicrous money to run lines. I also play WoW and other games alot. Is it possible to use a satellite for broadband downloads and use Verizon cellular broadband for uploads in lieu of an ISDN connection which i dont believe I can get in my location.

I hope you realize that on a hughesnet satellite connection, if you downloaded your full 199MB allotment per day for 30 days you only get about 900MB more then your current Verizon plan. Also, if you go 1MB over that, you'll get put in time-out for a entire day, with speeds less than dial-up. Second, the average speed on a daily basis is around 150-200kbps, slightly better then dial-up. Third, when you come to find that Hughesnet has far oversold their bandwidth, you'll be out $300-$400 for the installation.

As has been said many times on these forums, any terrestrial broadband is FAR better than Hughesnet (excluding dial-up). If you haven't already, look into Millenicom, they resell Verizon's bandwidth, and they usually don't mind too much if you go a GB or two over the 5GB limit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22924793 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:09:49 EDT Re: Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22924671 yolarry : I don't think their is such thing but if there was...it would unbalance your connection. imo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22924671 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:35:17 EDT Using Hughesnet and Verizon EVDO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22924351 anon : I live ina rural area where I can't get DSL or Cable without paying ludicrous money to run lines. I also play WoW and other games alot. Is it possible to use a satellite for broadband downloads and use Verizon cellular broadband for uploads in lieu of an ISDN connection which i dont believe I can get in my location.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22924351 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:15:53 EDT