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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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 ·Clear Wireless
| Maybe ATT and Verizon can help Dish/Echostar out... Considering they recently convinced the US Patent Office to review the validity of Tivo's patents:
»www.multichannel.com/article/326···view.php
Dish has a pretty compelling case in that patents that pre-date Tivo's "Time Warp" patent basically describe the same system. | |
|   KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| Re: Maybe ATT and Verizon can help Dish/Echostar out... Yes, now Verizon and AT&T have something in the Echostar game.
It's in all their best interests if the 600 pound gorilla that is Tivo gets taken down and out.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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| | espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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Minneapolis, MN
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| Re: Maybe ATT and Verizon can help Dish/Echostar out... said by KrK:It's in all their best interests if the 600 pound gorilla that is Tivo gets taken down and out. It's in everyone's interest if a patent that shouldn't have been granted in the first place doesn't hold up innovation by companies actually working to take a common technology forward.
EchoStar is actually putting forth effort in developing new hardware like the ViP 922 DVR that has integrated applications and built-in sling capability for live remote viewing on a PC or phone.
I have both a Dish 722 DVR and a TiVo HD for recording OTA programs. TiVo still has a lot of valid patent features that other companies aren't touching like the auto-recorded suggestions. That said, the hardware platform is a sluggish PoS compared to the 722. It's clear TiVo seems more focused on diverting resources to filing these lawsuits to drum up cash rather than carrying forth development on their product to ensure the longevity of the company.
Recording video to re-writeable media such as a hard drive has been patented a number of different ways at least a decade before the TiVo patent, which is why it is amazing they were able to get the patent at all in the first place.
I don't hope for the failure of TiVo as a company, but to sit back and file lawsuits against companies for using a technology they clearly didn't invent is absolutely ridiculous. | |
| | | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| Re: Maybe ATT and Verizon can help Dish/Echostar out... I agree. Tivo you want to rule the market? Then make awesome products people choose to buy. Pitch superior platforms to people like AT&T and Echostar.
Don't try to monopolize the market by forcing everyone to pay you via lawsuit and judgements and injunctions.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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| | | | | As someone mentioned above, it's the *implementation* of the feature that matters.
Honestly I don't think you understand this situation at all. Maybe you should actually read the patents before mouthing off about someone stifling innovation from frickin' Verizon and AT&T. | |
| | | | espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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1 edit | Re: Maybe ATT and Verizon can help Dish/Echostar out... said by sonicmerlin:Honestly I don't think you understand this situation at all. Maybe you should actually read the patents before mouthing off about someone stifling innovation from frickin' Verizon and AT&T. Since you clearly didn't follow the link I posted, let me quote from it:
The patent in question is TiVo's "Multimedia Time Warping System" patent, U.S. Patent No. 6,233,389, which describes a DVR system that allows for simultaneous storage and playback of TV programming from a cable or satellite source.
The patent office, in its Aug. 3 re-examination, said two claims in the '389 patent related to indexing "now appear to be rendered obvious" by prior art in two patents: 6,018,612, granted to Philips for a system that simultaneously stores and plays back a TV program; and 5,949,948, granted to iMedia for a compressed video-playback system. TiVo basically filed for a patent for technologies that have already been patented. | |
| | | | | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| Re: Maybe ATT and Verizon can help Dish/Echostar out... Ignore the Tivo Fanboi. He apparently gets his thrills insulting people and alluding to his superior knowledge and understanding. Both in which he is mistaken, apparently.
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