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| cdma is currently the dominant 3g in North America umm and china, and Japan just about everywhere but Europe CDMA is the best 3g network hands down, as for voice and data at the same time
»www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=4705
and here is a 3g network comparison
»cellularmap.net/3g_compare.shtml
coverage is all about what works for you, Verizon ownes and operates about 95% of its domestic network AT&T about 50%
»cellularmap.net/net_compare.shtml
the easy way to think of it is the rest of at&t's coverage is rented, and just like all of us what is better cared for a rented apartment or a home that you own that is why they have good coverage when you are in the city and not so good when you leave | |
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| just about everywhere but europe?
How about "many countries in asia". That's the extent of CDMA. Oh, and those countries are almost ALL dropping CDMA in favor of UMTS and LTE in the coming years.
If Apple had wanted to make a CDMA iPhone, they shoulda done that 2 years ago when CDMA would still be fine. 2 years from now CDMA will be in a downward spiral, and the only country that still will have a CDMA network will be the United States. Doesn't seem very smart to make a phone just for the US market.
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| Umm, no. With respect, most of your post is simply incorrect, tiger. Have a look-see: »www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
»www.cdg.org/worldwide/cdma_world···iber.asp
I might also suggest checking out some of the News and press releases on the site, for instance: "China Telecom has announced it plans to spend more than US$11.7 billion on CDMA network expansion and optimization over the next three years..." Additionally, as noted in a few previous posts, there are still enhancements being developed for CDMA2000. If you honestly think that the US is the only place where CDMA will be used in two years, you're just not paying attention.
For argument's sake though, even if CDMA was to only be used in the US in two years, there are 150 million+ CDMA subscribers. If they only penetrated 10% of that market, that's 15 million handsets sold. That seems very smart to me. | |
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| said by DarnellP:Umm, no. With respect, most of your post is simply incorrect, tiger. Have a look-see: » www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp» www.cdg.org/worldwide/cdma_world···iber.aspI might also suggest checking out some of the News and press releases on the site, for instance: "China Telecom has announced it plans to spend more than US$11.7 billion on CDMA network expansion and optimization over the next three years..." Additionally, as noted in a few previous posts, there are still enhancements being developed for CDMA2000. If you honestly think that the US is the only place where CDMA will be used in two years, you're just not paying attention. Fair nuff that 500 million people currently use CDMA. Judging by tables on the pages you link, CDMA's growth is slowing considerably, right as 3g growth is expanding on W-CDMA/UMTS systems. Either those markets are saturated, or the operators aren't investing anymore. GSM has over 3 billion subs. And that's increasing at the expense of CDMA. Countries like Japan and Malaysia began as CDMA, and in the last couple years have blanketed the nation with 3GSM/UMTS coverage. They've also stated their intent to use LTE.
Would you list any remotely large operators which will be using the CDMA2000 enhancements? They're all using WiMAX or will be using LTE.
For argument's sake though, even if CDMA was to only be used in the US in two years, there are 150 million+ CDMA subscribers. If they only penetrated 10% of that market, that's 15 million handsets sold. That seems very smart to me.
That 10% is putting a lot of assumptions on the line. Since the iPhone has been out for 2 years, anyone who was unfortunate enough to sign a contract right when the iphone came out and didn't want to break their contract is currently eligible to switch to ATT without penalty. That means, if you're on VZW and you've been waiting and waiting for an iPhone, there's no reason for you to stick with VZW. Unless, of course, the iPhone doesn't mean much to you.
And 2 years from now will have completed 2 full contract cycles. The folks just had to have the apple phone and who drove the iPhone's success went to ATT. The leftovers either don't care or prefer their service over a phone. Either way, that doesn't bode well for CDMA iPhone sales.
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"What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of omniscience? ...If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning."
-United States Secretary of Defense (1961-1968) Robert S. McNamara | |
| said by tiger72:Fair nuff that 500 million people currently use CDMA. Judging by tables on the pages you link, CDMA's growth is slowing considerably, Slowing perhaps, but still growing nonetheless.
Either those markets are saturated, or the operators aren't investing anymore. GSM has over 3 billion subs. Yes, GSM has more subscribers. That is not in dispute. However, that does not mean that their isn't a viable market for CDMA devices. As far as saturation, yes, I'd say that's the more likely scenario: »www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008···nes.html
Would you list any remotely large operators which will be using the CDMA2000 enhancements?
Come now, the enhancements were just released 10 days ago. Let's revisit this sometime in 2010.
That means, if you're on VZW and you've been waiting and waiting for an iPhone, there's no reason for you to stick with VZW. Sure there is. AT&T's network or lack thereof.
And 2 years from now will have completed 2 full contract cycles. The folks just had to have the apple phone and who drove the iPhone's success went to ATT. The leftovers either don't care or prefer their service over a phone. Either way, that doesn't bode well for CDMA iPhone sales.
Yes, those who just had to have the iPhone went to AT&T. However, there are still those who would like to have the iPhone but simply refuse to switch to AT&T. Moreover, you read all of the complaints about the iPhone here, on HoFo on other places on the internet. It's not a stretch to figure that if the iPhone were offered on Verizon, Sprint etc. that a significant number of subscribers would defect from AT&T. In this survey 55% of iPhone owners said their biggest dislike about the iPhone was AT&T's network: »brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn···bakeoff/ | |
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