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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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reply to funchords

Re: Defending Net Neutrality

Robb, I'm now watching you on video from the FCC headquarters, where you have just stated that you work for Google's lobbying groups in DC (Free Press, Public Knowledge, and the New America Foundation). It seems to me that your anti-ISP and anti-innovation stance is motivated by your connections with these groups, which are being paid by Google to promote laws and regulations that would help Google and cripple its current or potential competitors.

ISPs are not "picking winners and losers;" they're rationing expensive bandwidth so as to provide the most satisfying experience for the greatest number of their customers at a reasonable cost. Our customers want us to do this, and we will continue to do it for them despite your attempts to destroy us via unwarranted and unneeded regulation.


sivran
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Wow, the extent of your pro-ISP/anti-consumer bias is shocking.
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funchords
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reply to SuperWISP
Google, google, google, google, google, google, google, ...

... anything else that you have to say, Brett?

Robb Topolski
(not sponsored by Google)


SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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said by funchords:

Google, google, google, google, google, google, google, ...

... anything else that you have to say, Brett?
In this thread, it's all I really need to say. All of the organizations for which you work are puppets on Google's strings, and you have never yet voiced an opinion on this topic that was not 100% consistent with Google's agenda and interests.

But I have said a lot more elsewhere.

SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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said by sivran:

Wow, the extent of your pro-ISP/anti-consumer bias is shocking.
We are advocating for our customers' interests. The extent of your ignorance of this is shocking.


S_engineer
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

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So the rationing of bandwidth is a consumer interest, huh? Tell me, who specifically designates what a "satisfying experience" is?

The current rationing will only get worse as online video content becomes more prevelant. Failure to upgrade the oversold networks is the main problem.
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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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said by S_engineer:

So the rationing of bandwidth is a consumer interest, huh?
Absolutely. If you are going to charge users $30 per month, and 1 Mbps of bandwidth costs you $100 per month at wholesale, you need to carefully ration it. This means shaping traffic and preventing bandwidth hogging. If you don't, you can't give users good Web performance, and other things they need and expect, without charging them $80 to $90 per month for the 768K which the FCC has now tentatively set as its new standard for broadband. To simply raise prices, making service unaffordable, would truly be anti-consumer.

As for upgrading networks: Our networks don't need to be upgraded at the moment. They can already handle far more traffic than they're carrying. But if we can't at least break even on the cost of backbone bandwidth, it makes no difference how much network capacity we have.


sivran
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said by S_engineer:

So the rationing of bandwidth is a consumer interest, huh? Tell me, who specifically designates what a "satisfying experience" is?

The current rationing will only get worse as online video content becomes more prevelant. Failure to upgrade the oversold networks is the main problem.
Well, given that ol' wispy has no problem at all with flagrant net neutrality violations, and apparently believes web browsing to be the only legitimate use of the internet...
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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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said by sivran:

Well, given that ol' wispy has no problem at all with flagrant net neutrality violations
Well, since there is no common definition of "Net Neutrality," there is no way to determine whether one might be "violating" it. Not that you have the right to tell me how to run my business or manage my network in any case.

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