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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to Rob

Re: My Prediction

TWC serves major markets. Charter and Cox do as well.

Three years ago nobody though Alltel would get bought out by anyone in particular. I thought a year ago that Sprint would buy them. Verizon did.

Charter is in bankruptcy. Comcast could purchase them for a low price, finish retrofitting their more urban networks with DOCSIS 3, sell off the rural areas and end up with over 40% of the cable market in all likelihood.


Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

I really wouldn't rule out any acquisition. I wouldn't rule out everybody being served by AT&TCast by 2015 at this rate.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2
Reviews:
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I don't see that. There are areas that aren't profitable enough for those companies. Though I'll bet all major cities will be served by either AT&T or Verizon on the telephone side (once Qwest gets bought out by one of the two) and Comcast on the cable side.



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

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I was joking, but yes.

I imagine these new rural supertelcos (CenturyLink) get acquired within a decade.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

I'll bet the opposite. If I win the bet, you talk about it on BBR. If I lose, I'll pay my then-current internet bill to you for a month. Should only be about $150



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

reply to Karl Bode

said by Karl Bode:

I really wouldn't rule out any acquisition. I wouldn't rule out everybody being served by AT&TCast by 2015 at this rate.
I would personally rule out Comcast taking over Charter. I don't think even they would be willing to take on that much debt, not to mention signing a personal check to Paul Allen who does literally nothing but just that: sit back and collect.


Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

reply to iansltx
Hah. It's a deal.



morbo
Complete Your Transaction

join:2002-01-22
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reply to PapaMidnight
no one in their right mind will pick up Charter until their debt is at a managable level.



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

Yes, it's not like Comcast won't be willing to wait.


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

reply to iansltx
The Alltel VZW deal was in talks long ago. You would know this if you knew people that worked in the ACTUAL company offices and actually read their memos. This is why neither of them deployed GSM in their network, except for roaming.


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
Reviews:
·WOW Internet and..

reply to Karl Bode
VZ nor ATT want Qwest nor CenturyLink. ATT is happy with what it has and VZ is as well (for the most part). Qwest should take and merge with CenturyLink the others. Maybe even take on a cable company with the merger (After all CinciBell bought an Overbuild Muni cable company about 2years ago)


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

reply to morbo
that's what the Court's are for.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to hottboiinnc
They've been CDMA carriers from the outset (though Alltel had some legacy TDMA areas if I remember correctly) so why would theyswitch to GSM networks?


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
Reviews:
·WOW Internet and..

GSM is pretty much a world Standard. the USA is the only country that has not adopted that standard. Go to Every other country and they use GSM and unlocked cell phones. Pop in a new SIM card and off you go.

If they would have gone to GSM they would have had one of the largest in the country. Roaming on ATT, T-Mobile, Cent USA and other small carriers who built out with GSM or changed.

Alltel started out as a TDMA carrier as 360* Communications and then later switched to CDMA when they changed to Alltel and became nationwide. Otherwise they were a regional carrier.


AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL

said by hottboiinnc:

Go to Every other country and they use GSM and unlocked cell phones. Pop in a new SIM card and off you go.
That's not an entirely accurate statement, the majority of markets still have locked cell phones due to subsidizing, although there are a few notable countries which outright ban the practice.


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to PapaMidnight

said by PapaMidnight:

said by Karl Bode:

I really wouldn't rule out any acquisition. I wouldn't rule out everybody being served by AT&TCast by 2015 at this rate.
I would personally rule out Comcast taking over Charter. I don't think even they would be willing to take on that much debt,
They wouldn't have to buy Charter as a whole they could buy certain areas.

bsoft

join:2004-03-28
Boulder, CO

reply to hottboiinnc
Verizon is moving to LTE, the successor to UMTS (which is the successor to GSM).

Interestingly, there is no GSM in Japan (UMTS - yes, GSM - no). And several other countries (China, South Korea, Mexico, Canada) have major CDMA2000 carriers.

Fortunately it seems like UMB (Qualcomm's CDMA2000-family alternative to LTE) is dead, so everyone is going to standardize on LTE. Everyone except Sprint, at least.


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
Reviews:
·WOW Internet and..

Canada is GSM. ATT Canada was GSM. That's NOW Rogers Wireless they offer the iPhone.

If i'm not mistaken Bell is even GSM. As for VZ we all know what they're using. Why keep bringing it up? Especially since it's not here and the technology is still in "testing" and won't be deployed anytime soon.



fAcEtIOUs
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join:2002-03-03
kudos:4

said by hottboiinnc:

Canada is GSM. ATT Canada was GSM. That's NOW Rogers Wireless they offer the iPhone.

If i'm not mistaken Bell is even GSM. As for VZ we all know what they're using. Why keep bringing it up? Especially since it's not here and the technology is still in "testing" and won't be deployed anytime soon.
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Top Canadian GSM providers are Rogers Wireless and Fido.

There is more CDMA coverage in Canada than GSM.
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sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

reply to AVonGauss

said by AVonGauss:

That's not an entirely accurate statement, the majority of markets still have locked cell phones due to subsidizing, although there are a few notable countries which outright ban the practice.
I think the point is that in those countries they give you the option of bringing your own phone (by buying a phone outright) and paying *much* smaller monthly fees, or receiving a "subsidized" phone in which you pay much higher monthly fees, in the end causing you to pay twice as much as you would have for the phone if you had just bought it outright.

It's kind of like leasing a car.

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