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Re: My Prediction The Alltel VZW deal was in talks long ago. You would know this if you knew people that worked in the ACTUAL company offices and actually read their memos. This is why neither of them deployed GSM in their network, except for roaming. |
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kudos:2 | They've been CDMA carriers from the outset (though Alltel had some legacy TDMA areas if I remember correctly) so why would theyswitch to GSM networks? |
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| GSM is pretty much a world Standard. the USA is the only country that has not adopted that standard. Go to Every other country and they use GSM and unlocked cell phones. Pop in a new SIM card and off you go.
If they would have gone to GSM they would have had one of the largest in the country. Roaming on ATT, T-Mobile, Cent USA and other small carriers who built out with GSM or changed.
Alltel started out as a TDMA carrier as 360* Communications and then later switched to CDMA when they changed to Alltel and became nationwide. Otherwise they were a regional carrier. |
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Boynton Beach, FL | said by hottboiinnc:Go to Every other country and they use GSM and unlocked cell phones. Pop in a new SIM card and off you go. That's not an entirely accurate statement, the majority of markets still have locked cell phones due to subsidizing, although there are a few notable countries which outright ban the practice.
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Verizon is moving to LTE, the successor to UMTS (which is the successor to GSM).
Interestingly, there is no GSM in Japan (UMTS - yes, GSM - no). And several other countries (China, South Korea, Mexico, Canada) have major CDMA2000 carriers.
Fortunately it seems like UMB (Qualcomm's CDMA2000-family alternative to LTE) is dead, so everyone is going to standardize on LTE. Everyone except Sprint, at least. |
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| Canada is GSM. ATT Canada was GSM. That's NOW Rogers Wireless they offer the iPhone.
If i'm not mistaken Bell is even GSM. As for VZ we all know what they're using. Why keep bringing it up? Especially since it's not here and the technology is still in "testing" and won't be deployed anytime soon. |
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| said by hottboiinnc:Canada is GSM. ATT Canada was GSM. That's NOW Rogers Wireless they offer the iPhone. If i'm not mistaken Bell is even GSM. As for VZ we all know what they're using. Why keep bringing it up? Especially since it's not here and the technology is still in "testing" and won't be deployed anytime soon. »74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:7o···nk&gl=us
Major CDMA players in Canada include Telus Mobility and Bell Mobility.
Top Canadian GSM providers are Rogers Wireless and Fido.
There is more CDMA coverage in Canada than GSM.
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said by AVonGauss:That's not an entirely accurate statement, the majority of markets still have locked cell phones due to subsidizing, although there are a few notable countries which outright ban the practice. I think the point is that in those countries they give you the option of bringing your own phone (by buying a phone outright) and paying *much* smaller monthly fees, or receiving a "subsidized" phone in which you pay much higher monthly fees, in the end causing you to pay twice as much as you would have for the phone if you had just bought it outright.
It's kind of like leasing a car. |
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When I go to - »www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
It says there are about half a billion CDMA users in the world. That CDMA is used in North America, including Canada. I see Mexico, India, China all listed as CDMA countries, in addition to the U.S. and Canada.
Over here - »www.cdg.org/worldwide/cdma_world···iber.asp they provide the percent of CDMA subscribers by region.
In North America (the U.S. and Canada) it is 32.5%.
In Asia it's 51.8%.
For the rest of the world it's under 10%.
Europe is .8%, Middle East is 1.2%, Africa is 4.9%, Latin America is 8.8%.
China and Japan appear to have national CDMA coverage, India seems to have extensive CDMA coverage.
I don't think that is quite as bad as the GSM folks make it out to be.
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