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| Apple Snow Leopard malware defense 'very basic'
InfoWorld | August 28, 2009
»www.infoworld.com/d/security-cen···asic-587
Apple XProtect anti-malware feature defends against just two Trojans
The industry has been speculating that Apple's Snow Leopard operating system (released today) would include anti-virus functionality. In reality, the Apple XProtect anti-malware feature defends against just two Trojans, says one security vendor.
"Apple is positioning this more as anti-malware defense-enhancing default security, not anti-virus," says Chet Wisniewski, security analyst at Sophos. The function is intended to defend against two common Trojan attacks that could hit users not using anti-virus software, he says.
While Snow Leopard does have the ability to update this feature to defend against more types of malware, Apple is informing traditional anti-virus vendors that it won't compete in full-fledged anti-virus defense, Wisniewski says.
"This is very basic," Wisniewski says. "What they're doing is pattern-matching for two well-known Trojans, including one that pretends to be a video player." Sophos' analysis of the Apple Snow Leopard anti-malware defense: »www.sophos.com/blogs/sophoslabs/v/post/6269 -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Site Member ASAP - Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals |
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2 edits | reply to Smokey Bear Thanks, Smokey Bear First look here > »www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/08/25···leopard/ 6 Things You Need to Know About Mac OS X Snow Leopard Snow Leopard security - The good, the bad and the missing |
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  TearAbite
join:2001-07-25 Rancho Cucamonga, CA | reply to Smokey Bear Re: Apple Snow Leopard malware defense 'very basic'
Dont you have some antivirus to update or something? |
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| reply to Smokey Bear Why should this AV software scan for more than two trojans? There are simply very few viruses/trojans in the wild for OS X. It is pointless to have the OS X AV scan for Windows viruses.
What you guys are essentially saying is that since OS X doesn't have a virus problem (and only scans for two trojans), it is less secure. This is some pretzel logic if I've ever seen it. It's like saying that just because John has a bunch of incesticide stored in his garage and Peter has none, that his house is more "secure" from pests than is Peter's, even though there are no natural pests in Peter's geographical region. It would be a waste of time for Peter to stock up on incesticide. |
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1 edit | reply to Smokey Bear Re: Apple Snow Leopard malware defense 'very basic'
Max OS will dual boot with windows and it's possible to harbour either of their virus on either machine. The same logic in part also applies to Unix varieties. EDIT; "in part" added -- Paradigm Shift beta test pilot. So far nothing to report. Now is the not right time to stop folding. |
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| said by ashrc4 :it's possible to harbour either of their virus on either machine. EDIT; "in part" added I would happy if ms av's also scanned for mac viruses. Even if they were compiled on a Linux machine vm'ed in windows.  -- Paradigm Shift beta test pilot. So far nothing to report. Now is the not right time to stop folding. |
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| reply to TearAbite Snow Leopard security - Vista lessons not learned TheRegister | 29th August 2009
Apple Engineers missed a key opportunity to implement an industry-standard technology in their latest operating system that would have made it more resistant to hacking attacks, three researchers have said.
Known as ASLR, or address space layout randomization, the measure picks a different memory location to load system components each time the OS is started. While Microsoft has had it implemented since the roll-out of Windows Vista, the analogous protection in Snow Leopard, which went on sale Friday, suffers from a crucial deficiency: It fails to randomize core parts of the OS, including the heap, stack and dynamic linker.
That means that attackers who identify buffer overflows and similar bugs in OS X components have a much better chance of causing the vulnerability to execute malicious code that compromises the machine. The halfhearted attempt at implementing ASLR has been a chief complaint of security researchers since Leopard, Snow Leopard's predecessor. Many had hoped it would be made more robust in the new version.
"ASLR is really only useful if EVERYTHING is randomized," Charlie Miller, co-author of The Mac Hacker's Handbook, wrote in an email to The Register. "If there is anything that is not randomized, it defeats the purpose mostly. This is a major shortcoming of Apple, and I'm disappointed they didn't take this opportunity to implement full ASLR."
Not that the new OS hasn't improved some security offerings. One, called DEP, has been greatly expanded in Snow Leopard. It prevents shellcode and similar data that is supplied by a user from being executed by the OS. Had OS X had the protection over the past two Pwn2Own hacking contests neither of Miller's winning exploit entries would have worked.
One possible weakness with the new DEP offering: several parts of the Safari browser remain both writable and executable, a shortcoming that may make it easier for attackers to strike at one of the most targeted Apple applications.
Apple has made additional changes, including expanded menu options in its firewall and Safari plug-ins that run as separate processes. While Mogull said the latter should make it harder to exploit buggy add-ons, Dai Zovi worried that the change might allow attackers to repeatedly crash them unbeknownst to the user. »www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/29···ecurity/ -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Site Member ASAP - Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals |
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| reply to Smokey Bear Regretful upgrade: Snow Leopard incompatibilities Cnet News | September 1, 2009
Apple's $29 operating-system upgrade, Snow Leopard, is for most users a straightforward and worthwhile upgrade. But some are regretting their haste in upgrading to Mac OS X 10.6. Little incompatibilities with existing apps are causing headaches and slowing down work flow.
It's not the current versions of the big apps that don't work, of course. The latest version of Photoshop still runs. Even the current versions of the close-to-the-metal virtualization applications Parallels and VMware Fusion work in Snow Leopard. Apple's own apps--Mail, Calendar, and iTunes--all work great. And Firefox runs fine, even though Apple has its own competing browser, Safari.
But many little things don't work, and the niggles are frustrating. Dealing with them makes the Mac experience very un-Mac-like. For some users who have spent time tweaking their Mac setup, the operating-system upgrade means a step backward in the pleasure and smoothness of using the platform. They feel a hit in productivity. For people like me, it's the little hacks that make the Mac experience uniquely personal and help me paper over some of the Jobsian UI dictums of which I'd rather not be reminded.
Necessary disclaimer: Apple and third-party developers deserve much credit for ensuring that so many major apps work well in Snow Leopard, since it is such a major under-the-hood upgrade.
Most incompatibilities will be fixed, of course. Apple released Snow Leopard earlier than expected, and developers are scrambling to update their apps. But even some of the big developers have fallen behind the cycle here -- Microsoft's Live Mesh sync and backup product doesn't yet work, for example. »news.cnet.com/8301-19882_3-10322624-250.html -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Site Member ASAP - Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals |
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| reply to Smokey Bear Seems trivial and hardly worth mentioning, considering what we often encounter with a new Windows release, and all the ongoing, monthly and out-of-band critical security updates, that just never seem to end  -- Gladiator Security Forum: www.gladiator-antivirus.com/
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| said by chachazz :Seems trivial and hardly worth mentioning, considering what we often encounter with a new Windows release, and all the ongoing, monthly and out-of-band critical security updates, that just never seem to end Glitches in- and problems with operating systems are not solely reserved to Windows, so Apple's Snow Leopard will get attention too when there are problems with it. Or are you trying to convince us that Snow Leopard is entirely bug-free and super-secure too?  -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Site Member ASAP - Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals |
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| Viruslist also has a writeup about this. Looks like they list three key points:
# The built-in antivirus only scans files which have been downloaded via Safari, Mail, iChat, Firefox, Entourage and a few other browsers. It doesn't scan files from other sources - for instance, torrent or ftp files. # The antivirus is only able to detect two Trojans, even though the AV industry knows of several dozen malicious programs which target the Mac operating system. # The antivirus updates itself via Apple standard updates.
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| reply to Smokey Bear Apple fixes Flash snafu in Snow Leopard, patches 33 bugs in Leopard Computerworld OS | September 10, 2009
Less than two weeks after Apple launched Snow Leopard, the company today issued the new operating system's first security update. In a separate upgrade, Apple patched 33 vulnerabilities in 2007's Leopard, and about half as many in the even older Tiger.
Today's updates were the third and fourth from Apple in the last two days. Wednesday, Apple delivered security fixes for the iPhone and iPod Touch, as well as another upgrade for its QuickTime media player.
"It's another sneak attack," said Andrew Storms, director of security operations at nCircle Network Security, referring to the string of updates. "Actually, it's almost what we've come to expect from Apple," he added. Unlike rival OS maker Microsoft, which releases most of its security upgrades on a pre-set monthly schedule, Apple ships its patches whenever they're ready to go out the door.
The Snow Leopard 10.6.1 update's security content consisted solely of an upgrade for Adobe's Flash Player, which was bumped to the up-to-date version 10.0.32.18.
Users and security researchers had taken Apple to task for not only shipping Snow Leopard with an outdated and vulnerable version of Flash Player, but also for silently "downgrading" once-secure editions when Macs were updated to the new operating system.
Mac OS X 10.6.1 packaged nine patches for Flash vulnerabilities, some of which could result in "arbitrary code execution," Apple-speak of a critical flaw that attackers could exploit to grab control of a Mac. According to the corresponding Adobe security advisory, six of the nine flaws could be considered critical.
Apple released the first update for Snow Leopard less than two weeks after it debuted the operating system on Aug. 28, a slightly faster pace than in 2007, when Apple took about three weeks to issue the first security update for Mac. »www.computerworld.com/s/article/···_Leopard -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Site Member ASAP - Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals |
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