 | Minutes should be free I agree with most everyone else's point of view that the minutes you use while on a femtocell should not be deducted from your monthly allotment. That's a deal breaker for me right there. The other deal breaker? Access restrictions. I don't want my neighbors getting a free ride off my broadband. It'd be different if I had FiOS type upload speeds, but my ISP doesn't offer anything with more than 1 Mbps upstream so I'm very stingy with sharing. If I had 5 Mbps or more I'd be happy to let anyone make calls via my connection.
- Tate
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 aaronwtPremium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
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| said by Telco_Tech:I agree with most everyone else's point of view that the minutes you use while on a femtocell should not be deducted from your monthly allotment. That's a deal breaker for me right there. The other deal breaker? Access restrictions. I don't want my neighbors getting a free ride off my broadband. It'd be different if I had FiOS type upload speeds, but my ISP doesn't offer anything with more than 1 Mbps upstream so I'm very stingy with sharing. If I had 5 Mbps or more I'd be happy to let anyone make calls via my connection. - Tate The femtocells use very little bandwidth. I think the total, up/down, is only around 80kbs. |
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 | I think they would be faster to catch on it the carriers weren't so greedy and trying to extort additional money and use your minutes for these devices. Carriers need to remember that they these devices are to provide coverage in areas where their product is deficent. Perhaps the carriers should be back billed for using the customers Internet connection. -- Certs: CCNA, GPEN, GCIH, GCFW, GSEC, GCIA, GCFA |
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 | reply to aaronwt said by aaronwt:said by Telco_Tech:I agree with most everyone else's point of view that the minutes you use while on a femtocell should not be deducted from your monthly allotment. That's a deal breaker for me right there. The other deal breaker? Access restrictions. I don't want my neighbors getting a free ride off my broadband. It'd be different if I had FiOS type upload speeds, but my ISP doesn't offer anything with more than 1 Mbps upstream so I'm very stingy with sharing. If I had 5 Mbps or more I'd be happy to let anyone make calls via my connection. - Tate The femtocells use very little bandwidth. I think the total, up/down, is only around 80kbs. A PSTN phone call would use 64Kbps (as set by the G.711 codec that is the phone standard). Cell phones use even less, depending upon the codec used by the carrier.
In other words, you could stuff over 20 phone calls on a 1Mbps upload connection, and that's before compression and transcoding to a lower bandwidth codec. With compression you could most like get another 8 calls on that same upload connection.
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 | said by dcdeadbeat5:So the argument of using your bandwidth is really a weak argument. Did you somehow miss the part where I said I'm stingy with my upstream? I have roughly 900 Kbps usable upstream bandwidth when my LAN is idle. Let's assume that a cell call only uses 32 Kbps and let's also say that the femtocell limits itself to a max of four concurrent calls at any given time. That's 128 Kbps of my already meager 900 Kbps upstream being used by whoever happens to be within range. That may not seem like much to you, but I do a lot of uploading (security cam streaming) so every little drop of upstream bandwidth is important to me. You're also failing to take into account the fact that newer femtos are going to support 3G data sessions, so please don't tell me my concerns about bandwidth utilization are unwarranted or somehow irrelevant.
- Tate
-- It's time to let go of TDM people. If it's not IP-based, it's crap! |
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