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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1694967" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1694967');">jonny72</a>:</small><br><br>As a standard consumer, this negotiating is taking too long.  Directv offers a great service, but without the Tour de France and other cycling, it's horrible for me.  Consequently, I'm checking whether to move to cable or DishNetwork - both carry versus.  I'm not interested in the price - I just want Versus.<br> </div> But Dish's contracts come up at new year most often... at least Feb is any rate adjustment.<br><br>      Would not be surprised  VS/Cumcast doesn't pull the same sh^t on them.<br><br>       Difference is DISH will say no way off the bat to rediculouse increase in the past, DTV has not and just said OK to and passed on.... now VS looses BOTH sat providers that could be a big thing to them... let alone how they rape other cable providers that carry VS.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Van posted : Make sure you say just that to them when leaving DirecTV and you could get a very nice deal to stay with them.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jonny72 posted : As a standard consumer, this negotiating is taking too long.  Directv offers a great service, but without the Tour de France and other cycling, it's horrible for me.  Consequently, I'm checking whether to move to cable or DishNetwork - both carry versus.  I'm not interested in the price - I just want Versus.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : In the first two rounds of the playoff, Versus has only a few exclusive telecasts. The rest are national subject to local blackout.<br><br>If it's not Versus and doesn't involve your local team, it will be on CI. But if Versus isn't back by the playoffs, we'll be missing a lot of playoff games.<br><br>I've been very vocal on DTV's facebook page to the point of being banned there and was finally contacted by a DTV rep offering to let me out of my contract. I agreed to wait until the playoffs.<br><br>If this isn't fixed by then, I'm likely to take them up on their offer.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[gugarci posted : This is ridiculous. I love hockey and If I recalled from last year after the local teams were eliminated the rest of playoff games were mainly in Versus. <br><br>I'm not going to put up with this and If I have to I will drop Direct TV. And If my wife objects I will add a Comcast TV and we'll pay the additional bill.  <br><br>I want and love Playoff Hockey. <br><br>I know Center Ice offers some playoff games according to Direct TV. If anyone here has Center Ice with Direct TV how was the playoff coverage and did you get see a lot of games???]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:12:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Joe12345678 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1233971" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1233971');">Steve Mehs</a>:</small><br><br>ESPN Classic is useless now that all four major sports leagues have their own channels and show classic games.  ESPN Classic has what poker, boxing and is used as an overflow channel for NCAA football on Saturdays.<br> </div>why can they move to overflow to a differnt channel as many systems put it in the sports pack when epsn changed the rules.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Steve Mehs posted : ESPN Classic is useless now that all four major sports leagues have their own channels and show classic games.  ESPN Classic has what poker, boxing and is used as an overflow channel for NCAA football on Saturdays.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1233971" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1233971');">Steve Mehs</a>:</small><br><br>Completely unrelated.  DirecTV and Disney came up with a new agreement earlier this year.  Basically ESPN Classic and ESPN U swapped packages.  ESPN U is now in the Choice package and above and ESPN Classic is in the Sports Pak and as a result, Premier.<br><br>And no ESPN Classic was not always in the package.  Classic Sports Network was originally in Total Choice Silver Sports, which was basically Total Choice plus the Sports Pak, a few years after ESPN bought out the channel and turned it into ESPN Classic, when DirecTV did some package restructuring, the channel was moved into Total Choice, which is now called Choice.<br><br>So basically the channel is going back to where it originally was.<br> </div>also ESPN Classic may die soon and become espn 3 or may a soccer channel.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Steve Mehs posted : Completely unrelated.  DirecTV and Disney came up with a new agreement earlier this year.  Basically ESPN Classic and ESPN U swapped packages.  ESPN U is now in the Choice package and above and ESPN Classic is in the Sports Pak and as a result, Premier.<br><br>And no ESPN Classic was not always in the package.  Classic Sports Network was originally in Total Choice Silver Sports, which was basically Total Choice plus the Sports Pak, a few years after ESPN bought out the channel and turned it into ESPN Classic, when DirecTV did some package restructuring, the channel was moved into Total Choice, which is now called Choice.<br><br>So basically the channel is going back to where it originally was.<br><small>--<br>Don't Blame Me, I Voted For McCain<br>Welcome to The SSA, The Socialist States of Amerika, Lead By Your Dictator, Hussein Obama<br>Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, B. Hussein Obama<br>Obama = Terrorist</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[grover92000 posted : Thanks for the link robjlevin.<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>"What [DirecTV officials] wanted to do and what they're insisting on and what they have also not told the public is that they were insisting on a clause that would give them the ability to take Versus away from 6 million existing subscribers by re-tiering it, putting on a different tier and going back and saying 'now if you want to continue getting Versus, which you used to get for free, now you have to pay X dollars more a month,'" Davis said. "That's something we wouldn't accept and that's what this is about."<hr></blockquote><br><br>I think thats exactly what's happening.  I have the CHOICE XTRA package and ESPN Classic was always included in it.  A month or so ago I lost that channel and when I checked their site it's now in the PREMIER package.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Steve Mehs posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/853361" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=853361');">Dude111</a>:</small><br><br>  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>You can keep all your HD feeds.<hr></blockquote><br>I agree.....<br><br>HD is totally un-needed.... I have always watched SD and thats fine by me (Looks good,etc)<br><br>:)<br> </div> :uhh:  You know that's not what I meant.  I'm not stuck in the 90s like you,  I have a couple HDTVs with HD DVRs connected to them.  My point was I'd rather have Versus HD for 7 games that I care about as opposed to ton of HD feeds on RSNs via Center Ice that I don't really care much for.  <br><br>And for serious viewing, no SD is not good enough, SD sucks.  But whatever game or two I get on GAME HD is fine for me right now.<br><small>--<br>Don't Blame Me, I Voted For McCain<br>Welcome to The SSA, The Socialist States of Amerika, Lead By Your Dictator, Hussein Obama<br>Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, B. Hussein Obama<br>Obama = Terrorist</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Dude111 posted :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>You can keep all your HD feeds.<hr></blockquote>I agree.....<br><br>HD is totally un-needed.... I have always watched SD and thats fine by me (Looks good,etc)<br><br>:)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : Interesting article at NHL.com:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=503276" >www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=503276</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Steve Mehs posted :  Well tonight was an interesting science experiment.  A buddy of mine and I went out to watch the game tonight.  We hit all the major chain bar and grilles.  Chili's, Applebee's, TGI Fridays, Smokey Bones and more, it was funny, we walk into the some of these places and the wait staff sees us with our Sabres gear on and they say 'Sorry we don't get Versus' before we even say anything.  We ended up at Famous Dave's who had the game on in HD on Time Warner.  When we sat down I said 'Good, I'm glad to see you guys don't have the self proclaimed sports leader'.<br><br>Dave's was jam packed while all the other places were ghost towns.  Congratulations DirecTV, not only has your greed cost the enjoyment of hockey fans, but you cost a lot of places a lot of business in the hockey hotbeds.  But kudos to the few places smart enough to know better and have an alternate source.  <br><br>And Sabres fans unfortunate enough to have DirecTV missed one hell of a game.  They really lit it up in the second.  And with 6 more Versus' games on tap, it will be fun to see if more places get cable.  <br><br>Man if the Sabres get into the playoffs and make it to the Conference Finals, holy shit, DirecTV might as well  pack up shop in this area.  I can't wait to see the advertising TW could out with, they will rip that company to shreds and rightfully so.<br><br>Folks with DirecTV who live in the two biggest hockey markets in the US today did not see their teams.<br><small>--<br>Don't Blame Me, I Voted For McCain<br>Welcome to The SSA, The Socialist States of Amerika, Lead By Your Dictator, Hussein Obama<br>Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, B. Hussein Obama<br>Obama = Terrorist</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : I'd go for that. My problem is that DTV is full of crap when they state they're doing this to hold down costs for their subscribers..<br><br>They raise rates every year and when they cut a channel there's no decrease.<br><br>At least be upfront and tell the truth about why this happening. At least them I'd have more respect for their position.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>20% is a nice way of spinning it. The numbers according to everything I've read is somewhere around 4-5 cents per subscriber.<br><br>What DTV wants to do is put it in the $12/month tier thus cutting out 6-8 million subscribers thus adding millions to their bottom line.<br><br>Which by the way their doing now by not paying Versus at all and not lowering anyone's subscription.<br> </div>better to pay $6-$12 more just for the playoffs and not all year long.<br><br>Also there was talk of a new tear so maybe a mini sports pack (no rsn's) or choice level 3. choice gold? choice deluxe ?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : You have this so backward it's not funny.<br><br>How can cheap channels subsidize the expensive ones? Do you really think cable and satellite would have becoming must have commodities if Oxygen and WE had been started back in '70s instead of ESPN?<br><br>Cable became popular because of the access to sports programming. This in turn allowed channels like Nickelodeon, WE, Oxygen and the rest to exist.<br><br>If the sports got shoved into its own tier, the rest of the channels would cost way more than they do now. Your argument is just what those in favor of ala carte programming use.<br><br>It's a narrow-minded view because there's no way WE or Oxygen or any of the other cheap channels would exist any longer since they'd have to charge way more than they do now. And that in turn would lower the rate of subscribers even more.<br><br>Soon all you'd have left would be the sports channels. The very channels that are subsidizing the cheap stuff.<br><br>Just like that restaurant with the cheap desserts. They'd be out of business if you didn't have to buy the dinner, too.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : 20% is a nice way of spinning it. The numbers according to everything I've read is somewhere around 4-5 cents per subscriber.<br><br>What DTV wants to do is put it in the $12/month tier thus cutting out 6-8 million subscribers thus adding millions to their bottom line.<br><br>Which by the way their doing now by not paying Versus at all and not lowering anyone's subscription.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>Think of it this way. You go out to dinner and get a free dessert with the purchase of two entrees. If you don't buy the dinners you pay $9.00 for the dessert.<br><br>In this case the dinners subsidize the cost of the dessert. In cable programming, the sports subsidize the rest of the programming.<br> </div>Actaull JUST the opposite  the CHEAP entertainment subsidizes the Obscenely high cost  basic  (ESPN, FOX, TBS, etc) sports want it or not, by much higer cost/mo  for EVERYONE, vs sports was not included by FORCE.<br><br>Because ESPN for instance is owned by ABC/Disney you want all those channels you must TAKE THE 10x COST ESPN to get any of them.<br><br>   No its the NON sports people subsizizing the basic sports NOT the other way around.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[pandora posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>Never happen. You're right that most of the cost for programming are for sports, but those dollars help to subsidize the carrying of niche channels.<br><br>With the ESPN's and RSN's there would be no WE, Oxygens or Food Networks.<br> </div>I don't see a relationship. If the sports programming were moved to a separate tier, I think everyone would be happier. As for the Verses channel, I doubt it has a lot of viewers. It is asking for a 20% fee increase, and if it is a low view channel, its cost may be out of line with viewer interest. Better to move it, and other sports channels over to a sports tier IMO.<br><br>These franchises may want to pay 200 million dollars for players, and expect the world to subsidize their decision. I'd rather opt out, and let those who want to subsidize sports franchises enjoy themselves.<br><br>Over here you can see the Verses channel has few viewers, rating 72 out of 74 ad supported channels carried by DirecTV - &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/Watch-This/DirecTV-willing-to-deal-with-Versus--for-the-right-price-63091402.html" >www.washingtonexaminer.com/sport&middot;&middot;&middot;402.html</A> <div class="bquote">On the network:&#148;While Versus is trying to ramp up the drama on the eve of the hockey season, we all have to take a step back and look at the fact that only four percent of the regular season games are on Versus, while the other 96 percent are on DIRECTV and Center Ice.  And Versus is not exactly in the running for a Stanley Cup in the ratings race.  For example, for the second quarter of 2009, the channel was rated 61st out of 74 ad-supported networks in the DIRECTV Universe (this is based on Nielsen ratings just within DIRECTV households and does not include pay channels like HBO and Showtime) and that was with the benefit of the Tour De France.  For the last full month that we have info on, August 2009, they actually ranked 72 out of 74 networks in the DIRECTV Universe with an average of 7,000 Households (at any given time during the month of August, an average of 7,000 Households were tuned in to the Versus network). &#147;</div>Before the 20% price hike request, Verses was among the highest cost per viewer channels. I don't blame DirecTV for refusing to pay more for a poorly viewed channel. See - &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=112772" >www.mediapost.com/publications/?&middot;&middot;&middot;d=112772</A><br><div class="bquote">According to SNL Kagan, Versus gets 18 cents per subscriber per month in carriage fees from cable and satellite distributors. <br><br>A spokesman for DirecTV said although the network will have spikes in viewership from its major sporting events, such as the National Hockey League, it has as much as 10 hours a day of infomercials. "It's a ratings loser," he said. <br><br>A story in Media Daily News in February ("Cable Sports Nets Pay More To Play," Feb. 27) noted that Versus was one of the highest in the cost per household rating -- some 25 cents per subscriber for each household rating point -- of any cable network. It was ranked fifth-highest in 2008. The highest was the NFL Network, at 52 cents per subscriber. Other sports networks were also high on the list. <br><br>In addition to the NHL, Versus carries the Tour de France bicycle race, collegiate sports from the Pac-10, Big 12, Mountain West and Ivy League conferences. It also airs the Professional Bull Riders (PBR), World Extreme Cage fighting and the Indy Racing League. <br><br>The news that DirecTV would be dropping Versus has resulted in limited public outrage, according to DirecTV officials. <br><br>"Regardless, we will continue to negotiate with Versus to try and reach a fair settlement, but if they continue to make demands that do not reflect reality, we will have no choice but to live without the channel," said a DirecTV press release.</div>It seems to me DirecTV has tried to be fair with a company that has a channel with limited viewership and that wants a ton of cash for the very few people who watch it.<br><small>--<br>"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : Think of it this way. You go out to dinner and get a free dessert with the purchase of two entrees. If you don't buy the dinners you pay $9.00 for the dessert.<br><br>In this case the dinners subsidize the cost of the dessert. In cable programming, the sports subsidize the rest of the programming.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1282822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1282822');">np23</a>:</small><br><br>Hayward...Rob said it best, without the ESPNs and RSNs, many of your favorite channels that your "majority" watches would be gone. You think al a cart would be good? LMAO, NO WAY! Your bill would be sky high because many channels would charge ridiculous rates to recoup operating costs.<br> </div> A HEAD IN THE SAND OSTRITCHE HEARD FROM...<br><br> That is total BS the cost is the sports....wntrertaiment is not being subsidised by sports it just dirt cheap to begin with.... especially the plethora of NOT rEALITY NONSENSE ON THE AIR.... BUT EVEN THE FEW  fil dramatic series are no as expensive  as the quarter of audinece spots stuff is.<br><br>  Again I spent 15+ years in the engineering on air delivery end of TV but all the aierial robo cams and crap that goes on in sports today.... if not just your $8 hot dog, and $6 Bud Light..... let alone anyone watcing at home really... absolutely ABSURD cost just for greed  the DIE HARD fans seem to have no problem   dealing with (but pay down their 25& Credidit Card?_... the rest of us disinterested that ascually pay for much of that..... PO's Me and many others... when monthy cable sat bill arrives.<br><br>  Wel actually it is too but  that;s the nonsense.<br><br>   And I'm sorry but you know distroy a perfectly good stsdium even aqmazing HISTORIC in the case of the Yankees) stadium FPR A NE billiom+ DOLLAR ONE and GEnrational OLD SEASON TICKET HOLDERs have to pay like UPWARDS OF $50K TO RETAINN THAT RIGHT... plus even that season pay the OBSCENE ticket prices.<br><br>   Sports for its own sake if frigging NUTS<br><br>   Yet you all think every is minor star making 25 MILLION even if they are fightiing dogs and cocks this day and age is JUST fine? <br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>Never happen. You're right that most of the cost for programming are for sports, but those dollars help to subsidize the carrying of niche channels.<br> <br> </div> What frigging NICK??? ESPN and they is owned by ABC/DISNEY.... you want thise entertaiment channels YIOu MUST take ESPN at 20x the cos rer not acrtuatial but  suvbscriber pot4ential. YOTAL BS.<br><br>  Fox does it to if the want any of the Fox entertainment channels.<br><br>  Hard to say which it is the sports or the nets but the are clearly in cahoots...and every once and a while most reccently VS and DTV ended up in a screw you situation.... NHL nearly bankrupted themsel;ves a couple of years  a go strike killing and entire season.<br><br>    Now those are the people BITCHING we can see our games on a 3rd rate (Comcast owmed (Vs)  GUESS WHY SAT IS GETTING A HARD TIME) sports net.... no major or even ESPN or FOX will varry the NHL but they are that full of themselves.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[np23 posted : Hayward...Rob said it best, without the ESPNs and RSNs, many of your favorite channels that your "majority" watches would be gone. You think al a cart would be good? LMAO, NO WAY! Your bill would be sky high because many channels would charge ridiculous rates to recoup operating costs.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : Never happen. You're right that most of the cost for programming are for sports, but those dollars help to subsidize the carrying of niche channels.<br><br>With the ESPN's and RSN's there would be no WE, Oxygens or Food Networks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1282822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1282822');">np23</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>You're examples are bad because baseball is pretty low in ratings just like hockey. Like I said, let's see a provider drop ESPNs & see the backlash of the "minority."<br> </div></div>  I don't care what damn sport it is... maybe  not you fav doesn't matter but vs cost is is very disproportionate to typical cable sub who never watches even the basic spots ESPN (like 5 now) FOX sports, AND THE REGIONALS THAT AGAIN ARE THE  MAJOR part of their bill every month , not the entertainment stuff they actually do watch mostly.<br><br>   I am the much more typical sports person get to World Series or Super Bower, even play offs team MILDLY interested in might give a s*** otherwise preseason, and lead up WHO CARES. And again I'm not watching at how I will gfo out and watch it in a public shared environment.<br><br>  And again NEVER AT HOME i WILL GO OUT TO A SPORTS BAR OR SOMETHING AND SEE IT AS A SHARED EXPERIENCE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE..... LET THEM PAY FOR THAT.... why should each and every cable/sat subscriber to make the 25% happy.<br><br>  And NOTHING to do with dropping ESPN... just make those that actually WANT it pay for it.... and the ABSURD salaries and stuff.... when spread across everyone..... when it just you then see how you feel about that stupid cost.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1282822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1282822');">np23</a>:</small><br><br>You obviously don't know what your talking about. Monday Night Football on ESPN has had the <b>3 HIGHEST NUMBER OF VIEWERS IN THE HISTORY OF CABLE TV.</b> <br>Monday Night Football was the most-viewed program on television on Monday night, topping broadcast fare such as Dancing with the Stars on ABC (16.4 mil) and House on FOX (13.7 mil). Vikings/Packers ranks as the most-viewed prime time television program -- on broadcast or cable -- since NBC drew 24.8 million for a Giants/Cowboys Sunday Night Football game on September 20.<br><br>Here's the 8 most viewed programs in cable television history, 6 are sports:<br><br>&#9;<br>    Date       Net    Program&#9;                   Viewers<br>1 Mon., 10/5/09&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Packers/Vikings     21.8 mil<br>2 Mon., 9/15/08&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Eagles/Cowboys&#9;18.6 mil<br>3 Mon., 12/3/07&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Patriots/Ravens&#9;17.5 mil<br>4 Fri., 8/17/07&#9;Disney High School Musical 2&#9;17.2 mil<br>5 Tue., 11/9/93&#9;CNN&#9;Larry King Live, NAFTA Debate 16.8 mil<br>6 Mon., 10/23/06&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Giants/Cowboys&#9;16.0 mil<br>7 Mon., 9/28/09&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Panthers/Cowboys&#9;15.7 mil<br>8 Mon., 9/25/06&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Falcons/Saints&#9;15.0 mil<br> </div> IN a COUNTRY of upwards of 300 Mlllion again LESS than 10% !!!! for the other 90% paying 2/3 of their cable sat bill to subsidise.<br><br>  Yes may seem like HUGE numbers until you look at the REALITY of the TOTAL WHOLE.<br><br>   And OK you will say a lot of the 300 Mill is kids so fine lets DOUBLE it still sorry you sports fanatics are still not more than 20-254% of poulation we are subsidising for your benifit.<br><br>    PS an having worked in the TV industry for near 20 year those rating are  optomistic ESTIMATES far from ACTUAL eyballs. Who pays the ratings services???? TV industry..... it like Lobbyists and Congress..... Congress it has any impact won't admit it but lets be real.<br><br>    Get over it you actually ARE a minority everyone else has to subsidise, and we are getting FED UP.<br><br>     You may think somene that can handle a fottball is worth 20 million 32 teams over,  personly I  an most others DO NOT YOU want to pay for that nonsense FINE why do I have to???<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[np23 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>Actually...he does know what he's talking about. The majority of users would be quite happy to get a programming package that doesn't include any sports channels at all.<br><br>You don't see millions of people leaving DTV over this, do you? How about two full seasons without the Yankess on Cablevision? They lost a few subs but it really didn't dent their bottom line.<br><br>Dish still doesn't carry YES and they seem to be doing quite nicely.<br><br>This is why DTV doesn't give a damn about this Versus thing.<br> </div>Take away the ESPNs & RSNs from a provider and you would see a HUGE drop in subs. If sports are so in the minority, then why is the industry flourishing & ratings so high, that they're breaking records and beating out networks?<br><br>You're examples are bad because baseball is pretty low in ratings just like hockey. Like I said, let's see a provider drop ESPNs & see the backlash of the "minority."]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : Actually...he does know what he's talking about. The majority of users would be quite happy to get a programming package that doesn't include any sports channels at all.<br><br>You don't see millions of people leaving DTV over this, do you? How about two full seasons without the Yankess on Cablevision? They lost a few subs but it really didn't dent their bottom line.<br><br>Dish still doesn't carry YES and they seem to be doing quite nicely.<br><br>This is why DTV doesn't give a damn about this Versus thing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[np23 posted : You obviously don't know what your talking about. Monday Night Football on ESPN has had the <b>3 HIGHEST NUMBER OF VIEWERS IN THE HISTORY OF CABLE TV.</b> <br>Monday Night Football was the most-viewed program on television on Monday night, topping broadcast fare such as Dancing with the Stars on ABC (16.4 mil) and House on FOX (13.7 mil). Vikings/Packers ranks as the most-viewed prime time television program -- on broadcast or cable -- since NBC drew 24.8 million for a Giants/Cowboys Sunday Night Football game on September 20.<br><br>Here's the 8 most viewed programs in cable television history, 6 are sports:<br><br>&#9;<br>    Date       Net    Program&#9;                   Viewers<br>1 Mon., 10/5/09&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Packers/Vikings     21.8 mil<br>2 Mon., 9/15/08&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Eagles/Cowboys&#9;18.6 mil<br>3 Mon., 12/3/07&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Patriots/Ravens&#9;17.5 mil<br>4 Fri., 8/17/07&#9;Disney High School Musical 2&#9;17.2 mil<br>5 Tue., 11/9/93&#9;CNN&#9;Larry King Live, NAFTA Debate 16.8 mil<br>6 Mon., 10/23/06&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Giants/Cowboys&#9;16.0 mil<br>7 Mon., 9/28/09&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Panthers/Cowboys&#9;15.7 mil<br>8 Mon., 9/25/06&#9;ESPN&#9;NFL: Falcons/Saints&#9;15.0 mil]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : I know many more people that don't give a crap about buying sports than do.... as myself NEVER watch it at home I will go out in a social environment shared experience to do it.<br><br> Still it its the 2/3's majority of you cable/sat bill cost for 20% or less of the channels. All the many more entertainment/news channels combined are the minor third.<br><br>   One day maybe it will become a la carte... but then of course when sports ONLY goes to thoiose who really want it it will really become absurdly astronomical expensive, when not subsidised by the many that don't want it.<br><br>  You may think sport is huge, but a city of 5 million has  hard time consistantly filling a  50,000 seat stadium.... that is only  1% of the population, even if only 2.5 mil still only 2%<br><br>People not bothing and  regularly watch on TV migh make 10%<br><br>   You are right the MONEY is disproportunantely HUGE.... that does not really translat to overall eyeballs, though.<br>    <br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>What exactly is your point?<br> </div>I'd say good DTV didn't cave in. Surprised its been this long but VS will want those viwers back and make a reasonable compromise.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[np23 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/171865" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=171865');">Hayward</a>:</small><br><br>But then consider 2/3rds of you cable or sat bill is SPORTS fan or not  (ESPN and all the othe basic/tier package stuff)<br><br>  The entertainment channels are dirt cheap.<br><br>  Sports is 2/3s cost for actually 20% of audience.<br><br>  I know many more that don't give an active crap about sports (except maybe end of seasons and they go out so see playoffs  over a beer with friends not at home)... vs those that do season long.  <br><br>   <br> </div>The sports industry is huge & I highly doubt a 20% audience. Sports is a $410 billion industry with $30 billion spent annually for advertising. Sports programming is pretty big.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : But then consider 2/3rds of you cable or sat bill is SPORTS fan or not  (ESPN and all the othe basic/tier package stuff)<br><br>  The entertainment channels are dirt cheap.<br><br>  Sports is 2/3s cost for actually 20% of audience.<br><br>  I know many more that don't give an active crap about sports (except maybe end of seasons and they go out so see playoffs  over a beer with friends not at home)... vs those that do season long.  <br><br>   <br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : Nice spin by DirecTV, but from what I can find out the increase is somewhere along the lines of 4 cents per subscriber. Going from 20 cents or so to 24 cents or so. Yeah, that's 20 percent but at that level any increase is going to sound large if you state it in percentages.<br><br>In the mean time, DirecTV hasn't lowered the price now that they're not paying that 20 cents per subscriber to Versus. <br><br>Check out DirecTV's "fan" page on Facebook. Nobody is buying their BS story at all. The only greed here is on DirecTV's part. I'd have a lot more respect for their position if they'd be honest about it. But they're lying to everyone. This isn't over 4 cents. It's over the demand by DirecTV to put the channel in the sports pack.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[pandora posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>This about Directv's money grab and nothing else. They are looking to push Versus into the sports pack and nail anyone that wants it $12/month.<br><br>They DO NOT care about their subscribers. I'd have a lot more respect for them if they just told the truth, but this crock of crap story about holding the line on prices is just that...a crock.<br> </div>I do not watch, and before this thread never heard of the Versus channel. It appears they are seeking a very disproportionate fee increase. If that means they move to a $12 sports package, it is fine with me. I don't want my monthly DirecTV bill to go up because a channel few watch is greedy.<br><small>--<br>"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:41:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : This about Directv's money grab and nothing else. They are looking to push Versus into the sports pack and nail anyone that wants it $12/month.<br><br>They DO NOT care about their subscribers. I'd have a lot more respect for them if they just told the truth, but this crock of crap story about holding the line on prices is just that...a crock.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:30:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1282822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1282822');">np23</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/171865" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=171865');">Hayward</a>:</small><br><br>  DTV doesn't do that... it was just surprise everyone... and also just channel gone no we are fighting for your bottom line you should call VS and bitch about this.... just GONE... no explainantion  no whats going on, now here is how you can help.<br> </div>Hayward...yet again, you're wrong! Directv clearly communicated that Versus was possibly being dropped. Scrolls ran across the screen from Directv & Versus. Their were messages on Directv's website, too.<br> </div> Where as DISH has a hostory of fighting back... first I've seen DTV do it.  AND DTV may have put a crawl on VS for a while VS themselves diid NOT.... in the DISH dispute with VIACOM did on TV LAND the only  channel they let them continue to carry.... so it made EVERY viewer DTV or CABLE in the NATION aware of what Viacom was up to.<br><br>   VS gas kept it in hose.... no call DTV crawls have shown up on VS ion DISH or Cable, like again it DID with the Viacom DISH foasco...that they blew.<br><br>    Ended up the way DISH wanted it no immediate fee increase and added channel the want on all teirs basic up appeared only on the upper teirs, for those who wanted it..<br><br>    Again maybe VS needs to become a upper teir only station if they/NHL want that much extra bucks.<br><br>    After the complete season blocking strike nonsense you would think the NHL would be happy they even HAVE viewers on a 2nd/3rd rate network anymore.... but noooo... back to the money pit.<br><br> And I'd be willing tgo be this is now VS driving thins but demands from the NHL.<br><br>     I doubt it's the cage fighters, skateboarders  etc.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : Apparently the NHL has chosen to back Versus:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=57131" >www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=57131</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:37:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br>Was that supposed to make any sense at all?<br> </div>Well maybe if you had quoted something so I'd have a clue of what you are talking about.... I could answer with out doing research I have no interest in doing.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:50:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Steve Mehs posted :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>but they do make you pay $6 up to $20 /m per box on cable.<hr></blockquote><br><br>I guess you can't read, so let me reiterate.  <b>"These prices are programming only, since that's what the topic of all this is. MSOs caving in to content provider price increases. Additional IRD fees, DVR fees and cable franchise fee's are not included since they have nothing to do with the cost of programming to the MSO."</b>  <br><br>The cost of renting an STB has nothing to do with what a provider pays Versus, ESPN or anyone else for carriage agreements.<br><br>And with Time Warner here, the cost of the first digital terminal is included in the price, just like satellite, additional terminals are $7.45 each, two and a half bucks more then satellite, but there are no upfront costs <br><small>--<br>Don't Blame Me, I Voted For McCain<br>Welcome to The SSA, The Socialist States of Amerika, Lead By Your Dictator, Hussein Obama<br>Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, B. Hussein Obama<br>Obama = Terrorist</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:21:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[robjlevin posted : Was that supposed to make any sense at all?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:06:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/712898" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=712898');">robjlevin</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/171865" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=171865');">Hayward</a>:</small><br><br>As to Cheap Charlie in the 8 years I have had it... NO CHANNEL has gone away I cared about and they absolutely won the VIACOM BS thing.<br> </div>No channel YOU care about. If there was no NHL on Vs, I'd be able to say the same thing of any of the carriers I've had be it cable, telco or satellite.<br><br>Being a hockey fan, I have an interest in seeing these two giant corporations make a deal and stop using us as pawns.<br> </div>Point is a very much doubt it is the other minor sports on VS mandating the cost increase.... more than the barely even recover NHL once again.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:24:07 EDT</pubDate>
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