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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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"Consumer" group wants prices to be out of consumers' reach

Let's see here. I'm an ISP in Laramie, Wyoming, where the wholesale price of bandwidth -- even if you buy an OC-3, which is a large pipe -- is $100 per Mbps per month. (Don't believe me? Go ahead and price it yourself. Use the address of City Hall, which is right in the middle of town; it's 406 Ivinson Avenue, Laramie, Wyoming, 82070.) So, Free Press wants to set the wholesale price of enough bandwidth to qualify as a "broadband" connection at $500 per month. And that's not including the ISP's overhead and expenses.

That's far beyond what consumers will be willing to pay, so -- suddenly -- no one will be able to afford "broadband."

Some "consumer group." (We already know that they are an astroturf organization doing the bidding of Google, a corporation which cares not a bit about consumers; this just verifies it.)

powerhog
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Owasso, OK

Re: "Consumer" group wants prices to be out of consumers' reach

Yup- you'd have to stop advertising your services as "broadband" and sell it as "high speed". Just like those who sell Fords can't advertise them as a Rolls Royce.

But, since you're still the only game in town, you can still offer the same services for the same prices. It's not like they're going to FORCE you to sell "broadband".
SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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Re: "Consumer" group wants prices to be out of consumers' reach

said by powerhog:

Yup- you'd have to stop advertising your services as "broadband" and sell it as "high speed".
The term "broadband" actually has nothing to do with speed, by the way. It has to do with the technology used to multiplex transmissions over a wideband medium.

said by powerhog:

But, since you're still the only game in town,
Absolutely, 100% dead wrong. I compete with the telephone company, the cable company, cellular, satellite, and several other WISPs. Not to mention the University of Wyoming, which should not be competing with private enterprise but is doing so.

powerhog
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Re: "Consumer" group wants prices to be out of consumers' reach

said by SuperWISP:

The term "broadband" actually has nothing to do with speed, by the way. It has to do with the technology used to multiplex transmissions over a wideband medium.
Broadband, narrowband, in-band, out-of-band... all have meanings dependent upon the context. For the purposes of THIS discussion, the FCC is indeed looking to define "broadband" (as consumers know it) by speed... which we could further argue whether it should be based on "mega" or "mebi" bits per second.
SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

Re: "Consumer" group wants prices to be out of consumers' reach

said by powerhog:

Broadband, narrowband, in-band, out-of-band... all have meanings dependent upon the context.
Sorry, Mr. Dumpty, but in fact these terms have precise scientific meanings. For Congress to attempt to redefine "broadband" is reminiscent of the Arkansas Legislature's attempt to legislate the value of Pi to be 3. (And, yes, they did nearly do this some years ago.)

digitalfreak
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join:2005-12-09
Blacklick, OH
said by SuperWISP:

said by powerhog:

Yup- you'd have to stop advertising your services as "broadband" and sell it as "high speed".
The term "broadband" actually has nothing to do with speed, by the way. It has to do with the technology used to multiplex transmissions over a wideband medium.

said by powerhog:

But, since you're still the only game in town,
Absolutely, 100% dead wrong. I compete with the telephone company, the cable company, cellular, satellite, and several other WISPs. Not to mention the University of Wyoming, which should not be competing with private enterprise but is doing so.
People must be finding the University of Wyoming's service to be superior to yours or they wouldn't be using it. If you can't compete, either offer better service or close down. Your constant whining about Google being evil is getting old.
Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Re: "Consumer" group wants prices to be out of consumers' reach

While SuperWISP and I do not agree on a lot (most) things, I will agree that a private company should not have to compete with a publicly funded university for off campus services.
SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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said by digitalfreak:

People must be finding the University of Wyoming's service to be superior to yours or they wouldn't be using it.
Actually, no. What they do is to make the fee for their service mandatory for all students, thus forcing them to buy it whether they use it or not.

Also, they offer it below cost thanks to big government subsidies.

On the other hand, I guess it's a measure of how good our service is that some of the students in the University's dormitories and apartments still come to us and ask to be our customers. Unfortunately, the University tries to prevent them from patronizing us by preventing them from erecting antennas.

KrK
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Did you ever stop to consider that maybe if the FCC did things correctly your bandwidth costs in Laramie, WY woudn't be so ridiculously insane?

Also, I hate to say it but there are already broadband services in lucky parts of the USA that offer above those speeds--- in some cases, WELL ABOVE, and they are far, far, far less then $500 a month.
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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

Re: "Consumer" group wants prices to be out of consumers' reach

said by KrK:

Did you ever stop to consider that maybe if the FCC did things correctly your bandwidth costs in Laramie, WY woudn't be so ridiculously insane?
I guess you haven't seen my article at »bennett.com/blog/2009/06/whats-t···al-axes/

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