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Re: oh hamburgers said by iansltx:The iPhone is two years old and isn't "old hat" yet. The iPod is much older and people still think it's cool. Your logic fails there. Additionally, there are PLENTY of manufacturers who are profitable and make their devices for different technologies. heard of HTC? Samsung? Lastly, voice + data simultaneously, while nice, isn't a make-or-break deal and I'd rather be able to do one or the other than to have neither due to network congestion. Plus, the next CDMA spec (if CDMA sticks around in the face of WiMAX and LTE, which I think it will) has the provision for simultaneous voice and data. I love how CDMA fanboys go the the theoretical "next" CDMA when approached with limitations of simultaneous voice and data. It is very practical. I have my iPhone tethered and I can say, make a phone call. Can't do that on Verizon.
There is no need for logic. Just a simple review of the inadequate capabilities of CDMA (and not the theoretical next gen that no one is adopting).
And any technology that is approaching a year old is old.
Personally even though I have an iPhone I cheer for the PRE.
But like I sad earlier. Let's all smash our phones and be free of the telco tyrannies. |
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iansltx
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| The "next" CDMA isn't theoretical. It's very practical. It just wont be rolled out for another year..
Also, some people don't need the newest greatest bestest thing out there. My first-gen iphone works just fine...it's not worth several hundred dollars to upgrade to the next gen. That said, I'll probably be getting a new phone in a few months on Sprint. My iMac (late 2007) will get an upgrade to Snow Leopard when that comes in the mail from Amazon. It's been a solid computer and I haven't had any need to upgrade it. My HTC Mogul lived out two years on-contract before I got the Touch Pro...
Also, if you want to talk theoretical look at LTE. Latest and greatest...which isn't out yet. WiMAX OTOH can do speeds comparable to DOCSIS 2 cable in the eal world. Which comes to the capacity thing again; AT&T and Verizon each have 22 MHz of spectrum on the 700MHz band. Clearwire has something like 120 MHz in the 2500MHz band. That's enough for twelve non-overlapping 10MHz WiMAX channels, or about 400 Mbps of capacity with the current system. Pretty crazy huh? |
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| said by iansltx:The "next" CDMA isn't theoretical. It's very practical. It just wont be rolled out for another year.. Also, some people don't need the newest greatest bestest thing out there. My first-gen iphone works just fine...it's not worth several hundred dollars to upgrade to the next gen. That said, I'll probably be getting a new phone in a few months on Sprint. My iMac (late 2007) will get an upgrade to Snow Leopard when that comes in the mail from Amazon. It's been a solid computer and I haven't had any need to upgrade it. My HTC Mogul lived out two years on-contract before I got the Touch Pro... Also, if you want to talk theoretical look at LTE. Latest and greatest...which isn't out yet. WiMAX OTOH can do speeds comparable to DOCSIS 2 cable in the eal world. Which comes to the capacity thing again; AT&T and Verizon each have 22 MHz of spectrum on the 700MHz band. Clearwire has something like 120 MHz in the 2500MHz band. That's enough for twelve non-overlapping 10MHz WiMAX channels, or about 400 Mbps of capacity with the current system. Pretty crazy huh? But I am tethering and talking on my iPhone right now, not a year from now. So HSPA wins over CDMA in this case.
No one has signed up to use the next gen CDMA. Sprint is reselling WiMax. Verizon is switching to LTE. CDMA is a goner.
I still say any consumer technology that is more than a year old is just plain old. Consumers want the latest and greatest, subsidized, and always available (at least until the next thing is out).
So let's end this cycle and all smash our phones. |
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| On smashing phones, you first. Personally I like living in the 21st century. If I wanted nothing to do with a telco I'd simply discontinue service and sell my equipment...and switch majors (from Computer Science).
Also, CDMA is going to be around for a few more years, just like GSM is still around with HSPA. WiMAX is on a totally different spectrum band so why not? As such, I think CDMA probably has one more revision before it stops being updated. I'm not talking about EvDO Rev. B, but I think the tech will continue to improve until WiMAX has been overlaid 100% over CDMA areas. Which will be awhile. |
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| said by iansltx:On smashing phones, you first. Personally I like living in the 21st century. If I wanted nothing to do with a telco I'd simply discontinue service and sell my equipment...and switch majors (from Computer Science). Also, CDMA is going to be around for a few more years, just like GSM is still around with HSPA. WiMAX is on a totally different spectrum band so why not? As such, I think CDMA probably has one more revision before it stops being updated. I'm not talking about EvDO Rev. B, but I think the tech will continue to improve until WiMAX has been overlaid 100% over CDMA areas. Which will be awhile. CDMA is a dead technology. Like dcdeadbeat said, no one is continuing down its path. Everyone is jumping ship to LTE. Sprint will be the only one in the future with CDMA. They sold off their WiMax to Clear and will resell it back with backwards compatibility with CDMA (dual mode radios).
LTE will have the advantage by a long shot. And by extension, so will the GSM providers like T-Mobile and ATT. |
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