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Re: Besides lecturing, will judge reject Allen's plan? While this is completely off-topic, but since you brought it up... the US Government stepped in to take over a whore house in Nevada after it failed to pay back taxes and they couldn't even keep that from going bankrupt -- what makes you think it will succeed in running an entire healthcare system??
It's not "universal health coverage," it's universal health MANAGEMENT. The Democrats are selling you, and every other "the government can do no wrong" sucker, a pill of goods when they tell you that there will be no rationing of healthcare. Healthcare is a LIMITED RESOURCE and there are not enough doctors as it is right now -- this is something Congress (and Obama) have failed to address: who will get what and when? Have you ever read any of the proposed healthcare bill? It reads like stereo instructions that were written by a lawyer; it makes very little sense and there is plenty of "wiggle room" for Congress to essentially do whatever the hell it pleases. Furthermore, if their public option plan is so great and wonderful, why did they explicitly exclude themselves and their families from the same great coverage as the rest of us peons? Because it sucks!
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| said by matrix3D:While this is completely off-topic, but since you brought it up... the US Government stepped in to take over a whore house in Nevada after it failed to pay back taxes and they couldn't even keep that from going bankrupt -- what makes you think it will succeed in running an entire healthcare system?? It's not "universal health coverage," it's universal health MANAGEMENT. The Democrats are selling you, and every other "the government can do no wrong" sucker, a pill of goods when they tell you that there will be no rationing of healthcare. Healthcare is a LIMITED RESOURCE and there are not enough doctors as it is right now -- this is something Congress (and Obama) have failed to address: who will get what and when? Have you ever read any of the proposed healthcare bill? It reads like stereo instructions that were written by a lawyer; it makes very little sense and there is plenty of "wiggle room" for Congress to essentially do whatever the hell it pleases. Furthermore, if their public option plan is so great and wonderful, why did they explicitly exclude themselves and their families from the same great coverage as the rest of us peons? Because it sucks! Democrats live in some sort of utopia inside their minds... the rest of us live in something called reality. QFT! -- Does Microsoft mean small and squishy? |
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1 edit | reply to matrix3D Sorry for going WAY off topic, but you could start a thread about puppies and it'd end up in a healthcare debate.
said by matrix3D: While this is completely off-topic, but since you brought it up... the US Government stepped in to take over a whore house in Nevada after it failed to pay back taxes and they couldn't even keep that from going bankrupt -- what makes you think it will succeed in running an entire healthcare system??
Medicare. It works quite well, actually. It would work even better if we could fund it and Medicaid better.
said by matrix3D: It's not "universal health coverage," it's universal health MANAGEMENT. The Democrats are selling you, and every other "the government can do no wrong" sucker, a pill of goods when they tell you that there will be no rationing of healthcare. Healthcare is a LIMITED RESOURCE and there are not enough doctors as it is right now -- this is something Congress (and Obama) have failed to address: who will get what and when?
YOU determine how much care you get by how much you can afford. Not a lot different than now, except that some poor and kinda poor people would have some sort of health care coverage.
said by matrix3D: Democrats live in some sort of utopia inside their minds... the rest of us live in something called reality.
For any Republican to claim that we can't afford some sort of minimum health care standard for every American is so ironic that I have to laugh. Especially considering that they racked up a 12 trillion dollar public debt fighting a war for profit.
It's OK to bomb the shit out of a country halfway around the world, but it's not OK to give medicine to poor people?
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| reply to matrix3D said by matrix3D:Democrats live in some sort of utopia inside their minds... the rest of us live in something called reality. What a laugh. Democrats have to live in the actual reality created by the results of the policies of those who see total capitalism is some sort of Utopia for all that ails us. It's not an utopia at all, but try convincing some of these head-in-the-sand rightists is like battering your heart out on some brick wall. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 | reply to bent said by bent:Medicare. It works quite well, actually. It would work even better if we could fund it and Medicaid better. Yeah, it works quite well by underpaying providers by an average of 30%. How do the providers make up for that? By charging the rest of us higher rates, regardless of whether or not we have insurance. |
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 Katt join:2001-08-16 Portland, OR | reply to matrix3D said by matrix3D:While this is completely off-topic, but since you brought it up... the US Government stepped in to take over a whore house in Nevada after it failed to pay back taxes and they couldn't even keep that from going bankrupt -- what makes you think it will succeed in running an entire healthcare system?? You're referring to the Mustang Ranch and the first time it was shut down by the IRS in the late 90s. Yeah, I'm sure the government tried real hard to keep a brothel going when it knew full well that if the business "failed" they would get to auction off all the assets. |
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