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jchambers28

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what kind of tower is this and what is it used for.


TomS_
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Repeater and/or add/drop site.

Doesnt appear to be any broadcast antennas on it, so probably not TV/radio/mobile/etc.


kewlkeed
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reply to jchambers28
Microwave repeater/relay point.

Everything is in microwave band, so probably data (My guess is 5.8Ghz aprox). There's no distro sectors so it's purely backhaul from one place to another.


TomS_
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said by kewlkeed See Profile :

My guess is 5.8Ghz aprox
How can you tell from those photos? :P

I see waveguide comming out of one of the dishes, so I am guessing anything but 5.8.

Not saying that you cant get waveguide for 5.8, but 5.8 is a toy frequency and too prone to interference from any random Joe, so I would not expect to see it used in anything that is half decent.


kewlkeed
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reply to jchambers28
Shit pardon me.

Need to get my eyes checked. I said 5.8 simply because we use dishes that look basically identical to those for 5.8.


TomS_
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said by kewlkeed See Profile :

I said 5.8 simply because we use dishes that look basically identical to those for 5.8.
Assumptions are the mother of all you know whats.

We use dishes that look exactly the same as these but for 13Ghz and 8Ghz.

We also use some dishes for 5.8 that look the same, but they are very small (0.6m/2ft).

Dishes the size of the ones in those pictures (Im guessing around 2.4m/8ft or so?) would put you over EIRP limits for 5.8 wouldnt they?


kewlkeed
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reply to jchambers28
Ouch, eating my words on that one for sure.

I use that assumption quote probably 3 times a day


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said by TomS_ See Profile :

said by kewlkeed See Profile :

I said 5.8 simply because we use dishes that look basically identical to those for 5.8.
Assumptions are the mother of all you know whats.

Is it bad that I heard Everett McGill's voice in my head delivering that line from Under Siege 2?
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TomS_
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said by kewlkeed See Profile :

Ouch, eating my words on that one for sure.

I use that assumption quote probably 3 times a day
That'll learn ya!


kewlkeed
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reply to jchambers28

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4trPZFUwc

FTW!


Splitpair
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reply to jchambers28
I can tell you for sure the dishes I see are made by Andrew.

Wayne

balkme

join:2000-09-16
Plano, TX

reply to TomS_
Those are definitely point to point microwave dishes. My guess is that it is a 1+1 Space Diversity configuration, probably 6 or 11Ghz. You would not be using waveguide for any high frequency links judging from the tower (waveguide loss would be too high vs. the output power of the typical 18/23 Ghz radios)

TomS - There are a few microwave vendors (Alcatel-Lucent) who have a FCC part 15 radio that do not use spread spectrum modulation techniques, thus reducing the likely hood of interference, although it can still occur.

From the MDR-8000 datasheet:
"As with all of the licensed versions of the MDR-8000, the unlicensed radios employ a narrowband single-carrier modulation technique with high-receiver selectivity. This technique provides dramatically superior properties as compared to most other unlicensed radios which are of the direct sequence spread spectrum type. Due to the poor peak to average power characteristics of spread spectrum modulation, transmitter power is significantly lower than that of the MDR-8000. That means the MDR-8000 can deliver more power to the receiver, which significantly helps to overcome interference. In practical terms, the MDR-8000 can operate with an antenna one size smaller than a spread spectrum radio on paths longer than 8 miles."

See »www.alcatel-lucent.com/wps/porta···n_NA.xml

kb0rpj

join:2004-10-31
Trenton, MO
reply to jchambers28
Whats at the base of the tower? my guess would be, just off hand, its telemetry. for a power company's transmission substation.

see these kind of towers around here all the time very near transmission substations


jchambers28

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Alma, AR
it has a metal building with cables coming out of it.


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said by balkme See Profile :

Those are definitely point to point microwave dishes. My guess is that it is a 1+1 Space Diversity configuration, probably 6 or 11Ghz. You would not be using waveguide for any high frequency links judging from the tower (waveguide loss would be too high vs. the output power of the typical 18/23 Ghz radios)

TomS - There are a few microwave vendors (Alcatel-Lucent) who have a FCC part 15 radio that do not use spread spectrum modulation techniques, thus reducing the likely hood of interference, although it can still occur.

From the MDR-8000 datasheet:
"As with all of the licensed versions of the MDR-8000, the unlicensed radios employ a narrowband single-carrier modulation technique with high-receiver selectivity. This technique provides dramatically superior properties as compared to most other unlicensed radios which are of the direct sequence spread spectrum type. Due to the poor peak to average power characteristics of spread spectrum modulation, transmitter power is significantly lower than that of the MDR-8000. That means the MDR-8000 can deliver more power to the receiver, which significantly helps to overcome interference. In practical terms, the MDR-8000 can operate with an antenna one size smaller than a spread spectrum radio on paths longer than 8 miles."

See »www.alcatel-lucent.com/wps/porta···n_NA.xml
You are from Plano and you are posting Alcatel propaganda. Surly you cannot be from the Big A....

FWIW we like Alcatel here.

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