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aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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·Verizon FiOS

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reply to chemaupr

Re: how much for similar fios?

said by chemaupr:

369????????????? WTF.
That's really cheap. We pay ,much more than that at work for only two T1 lines. And a T1 line is only 1.5mbs.

Comcast is offering 66X the speed of a T1 for download and 10x the speed of a T1 for upload.
$370 a month is a bargain compared to what a couple of T1 lines costs.


tphillips
Premium
join:2009-02-04
Apopka, FL

That is cheap. We pay $900 for 10 meg. But what will the service/support be like?



Killa200
Premium
join:2005-12-02
Southeast TN

reply to aaronwt

said by aaronwt:

That's really cheap. We pay ,much more than that at work for only two T1 lines. And a T1 line is only 1.5mbs.

Comcast is offering 66X the speed of a T1 for download and 10x the speed of a T1 for upload.
$370 a month is a bargain compared to what a couple of T1 lines costs.
Its only "highly competitively priced when compared to typical business class T1 lines, many of which sell for hundreds of dollars per month and do not include the comprehensive software" if it includes the same SLA as a T1 does....

WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

reply to aaronwt

said by aaronwt:

said by chemaupr:

369????????????? WTF.
That's really cheap. We pay ,much more than that at work for only two T1 lines. And a T1 line is only 1.5mbs.

Comcast is offering 66X the speed of a T1 for download and 10x the speed of a T1 for upload.
$370 a month is a bargain compared to what a couple of T1 lines costs.
Except the T1's do not have any caps and you can actually USE the bandwidth you PAY for. That is a revolutionary concept right there.

bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY

Except the T1's do not have any caps and you can actually USE the bandwidth you PAY for. That is a revolutionary concept right there.

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A T1 does in fact have a cap. you get roughly 1 GB every 2 hours. 84GB a week and around 300ish a month. Almost rather than 5/15 with Comcast even with a 250GB cap. Less waiting. Around the same throughput.


mooseracing8

join:2006-05-22
Clarksville, MI

reply to tphillips
Worthless is what the service will be. They can't get their regular HSI biz lines working right.

I for one will never recommend Comcast to anyone unless you want headaches and no support. Dedicated lines are what most businesses need.


WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

reply to bn1221

said by bn1221:

Except the T1's do not have any caps and you can actually USE the bandwidth you PAY for. That is a revolutionary concept right there.

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A T1 does in fact have a cap. you get roughly 1 GB every 2 hours. 84GB a week and around 300ish a month. Almost rather than 5/15 with Comcast even with a 250GB cap. Less waiting. Around the same throughput.
That is a physical limitation of the connection you pay for, not a arbitrary imposed cap. The 6 Mbit CC connection has a theoretical monthly throughput of about 1.8 TB. Imposing a 250 GB cap is an arbitrary limit.


PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

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said by bn1221:

Except the T1's do not have any caps and you can actually USE the bandwidth you PAY for. That is a revolutionary concept right there.

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A T1 does in fact have a cap. you get roughly 1 GB every 2 hours. 84GB a week and around 300ish a month. Almost rather than 5/15 with Comcast even with a 250GB cap. Less waiting. Around the same throughput.
What T1 carrier do you speak of? A T1 line with a cap? No such thing exist.


elbm

join:2000-08-03
Reisterstown, MD

reply to aaronwt
What Comcast is selling is internet service-- a T1 is a dedicated point to point circuit where the subscriber owns a dedicated path/time slot through a network. A T1 can tie together networks, connect to an isp, carry pots traffic to the pstn-- it is much more than just a connection to the internet.


rebus9

join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Verizon FiOS

reply to PapaMidnight

said by PapaMidnight:

said by bn1221:

Except the T1's do not have any caps and you can actually USE the bandwidth you PAY for. That is a revolutionary concept right there.

+++

A T1 does in fact have a cap. you get roughly 1 GB every 2 hours. 84GB a week and around 300ish a month. Almost rather than 5/15 with Comcast even with a 250GB cap. Less waiting. Around the same throughput.
What T1 carrier do you speak of? A T1 line with a cap? No such thing exist.
He meant a "cap" in the context that you can't download very much on a T-1 anyway, even if you max it out 24x7.

rebus9

join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Verizon FiOS

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reply to mooseracing8

said by mooseracing8:

I for one will never recommend Comcast to anyone unless you want headaches and no support.
I have some clients near Memphis, TN, who were "lucky" enough to have been taken over by Comcast when RR and Comcast had to swap territories. (can't remember why they had to)

Their RR was very reliable. Once Comcast took over, service got so bad, they had to bring in a DSL line from Bellsouth and buy a dual-WAN broadband router so they could switch over everytime Comcast has an issue.

The DSL is only 1.5 mbps, so it's not a viable option for regular use. (many users in the office)

WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

reply to rebus9

said by rebus9:

said by PapaMidnight:

said by bn1221:

Except the T1's do not have any caps and you can actually USE the bandwidth you PAY for. That is a revolutionary concept right there.

+++

A T1 does in fact have a cap. you get roughly 1 GB every 2 hours. 84GB a week and around 300ish a month. Almost rather than 5/15 with Comcast even with a 250GB cap. Less waiting. Around the same throughput.
What T1 carrier do you speak of? A T1 line with a cap? No such thing exist.
He meant a "cap" in the context that you can't download very much on a T-1 anyway, even if you max it out 24x7.
Sooo, 300 GB-ish is not that much on a T1, but 250 GB on CC is more than anyone would ever need... Hmm. Those GB's on CC must be somehow bigger or more valuable.

rebus9

join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Verizon FiOS

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said by WernerSchutz:

Sooo, 300 GB-ish is not that much on a T1, but 250 GB on CC is more than anyone would ever need... Hmm. Those GB's on CC must be somehow bigger or more valuable.
Yeah, isn't it funny how the marketing department spins it?

Choose us because we're a better value than a T-1. Just don't expect to use what we sell you. On one hand they tell us their pipes are fat and plentiful. Then in the next sentence claim the network is stressed because of a few abusive users hogging all the bits. So which is it?

Basically they are giving you a full cup of coffee, but only letting you drink a few sips.

WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

said by rebus9:

Basically they are giving you a full cup of coffee, but only letting you drink a few sips.
Very good analogy, sir.


Killa200
Premium
join:2005-12-02
Southeast TN

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reply to rebus9

Basically they are giving you a full cup of coffee, but only letting you drink a few sips.
I liken it more to them giving you a fresh, full cup of coffee... and then upon you trying to take a drink, them shattering the cup. If you got a sip, good for you. If you get burnt from the coffee.... well you should have upgraded to a stronger cup!

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Comcast

reply to elbm
True, however whe it all comes down to it there's a lot to be said for throwing bandwidth at a problem. There's also the fact to be noted that no cable company other than Cablevision comes close to this new offering. For the same price Suddenlink would give you a 12/1.5 circuit. Time Warner's highest tier tends to be $100 cheaper, but about 15% of the speed. Currently, no cable provider other than CV and Comcast offers more tha a 50/5 conection before switching you over to fiber infrastructure, which is quite expensive.

Is a T1 better than a 100/15 Comcast conection? Depends on what you need. Is a Comcast connection at 100/15 better than a T1? Depeds on what you need. If I had a T1 right now I'd be getting a fraction of the bandwidth I'm currently getting and would have to pay about 6x what I'm paying right now. I've been fortunate enough to have a 99.9% reliable connection without the aid of an SLA and the connection fits my needs just fine.

The comparison of 100/15 service to an SLA'd T1 line is a bit audacious, however if all you want is a reasoably reliable bunch of bandwidth Comcast has you covered. If you're paranoid, back the connection up with a DSL circuit. Versus a T1 you'll likely still come out ahead, or at worst $100 behind per month for 66x more download bandwidth and 10x more upload bandwidth.


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