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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to IPPlanMan

Re: how much for similar fios?

No. It's because businesses are paying more for the service.


IPPlanMan
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said by iansltx:

No. It's because businesses are paying more for the service.
20-30 dollars more a month for the Business Tier over the residential tier gets you a whole bunch of other goodies besides the higher cap. (Microsoft Mail, Business Level Support, etc.)

Internet Starter Plan $59.95 per month

* 6 Mbps broadband downloads/1Mbps broadband Uploads + PowerBoost
* McAfee® Virus Scan
* Microsoft Communication Tools, including 2 Outlook mailboxes
* Domain name and three-page Web site
* 24/7 Business Class support
* Additional details

Recommended for:

* Businesses with lighter download needs
* Businesses looking for a more economical service that doesn’t skimp on speed or features

Internet Preferred Plan $89.95 per month

* 16 Mbps broadband downloads/2Mbps broadband Uploads + PowerBoost
* McAfee® Virus Scan
* Microsoft Communication Tools, including 4 Outlook mailboxes
* Domain name and starter three-page Web site
* 24/7 Business Class support
* Fully customizable options
* Additional details

Recommended for:

* Businesses with normal download and upload needs
* Businesses looking for increased productivity at a highly competitive rate

So the cap isn't higher because businesses are paying more. I think I've debunked that myth....

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iansltx

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I'd maintain that the higher cap higher price thing is indeed the case. Residential customers can get business accounts and guess what they do? That's right, download Hulu/Netflix/etc. Businesses who grab a high-bandwidth Comcast connection will probably use it, though they'll more likely be passing large files between point A and point B with a less "messy" protocol than BitTorrent.

That said, I probably use more interwebz than maybe 30% of Comcast Business customers.



IPPlanMan
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So how much of the 20-30 dollar price difference do you attribute to:

* Microsoft Communication Tools, including 4 Outlook mailboxes
* Domain name and starter three-page Web site
* 24/7 Business Class support
* Fully customizable options

And the rest is supposed to cover bandwidth? Really?
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"We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it."
Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army


iansltx

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Yes. Really. Would you like to pay more for business service?

Remember that most Comcast business users won't use all of the Exchange mailboxes. They may not use any of them.

The domain and three-page starter website probably costs Comcast $10 per year, if that much.

Business class support doens't cost much more then resi support. Probably less overall because business accounts aren't going to have as many "dumb questions".

Fully customizable options? Don't those cost extra?

Also, bandwidth is cheap. If Comcast has the capacity at the last mile (with DOCSIS 3 they do) 250GB costs Comcast around $3 or so.



IPPlanMan
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I don't want to pay more for any service if possible. Not sure where you're going with that... Who would?

I'm not sure what usage of the Mailboxes has to do with anything. They are provided and it's included in the cost.

The domain name and website is included in the price. You could go to Godaddy instead and pay the same or more.

Business class support doesn't cost more to handle than Residential Support? Really? I think you're generalizing about "dumb questions" as well.

The options may cost extra, but that's not the point. They aren't even available on the residential tier.

Bandwidth is cheap? I think you've made my point.
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"We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it."
Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army


iansltx

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Last I checked you were trying to prove that Comcast, with all those extra features, couldn't possibly be charging more for their business class service based on caps or lack thereof. I on the other hand think it's one of the major differentiating points between residential and business class service. You then changed the argument to something else and won that new argument.

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IPPlanMan
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I think I've been very consistent... I don't think I've changed my argument at all.

The added features of the business tier cost whatever they do... and if you say the cost of bandwidth is cheap, then I completely agree.

Why the cap for business is so much higher (10-12 times higher perhaps) for nearly the same price after the cost of these "features" are removed is very clear to me...
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"We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it."
Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army


iansltx

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Because businesses aren't going to buy cable anyway?



IPPlanMan
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said by iansltx:

Because businesses aren't going to buy cable anyway?
Because Comcast has the most to lose in the residential market....

Comcast doesn't want you using anything else but OnDemand or their premium channel services... for which they have a revenue stream.

Again, the cap is not about addressing congestion (to quote JL - an authorized Comcast representative on DSLR)
»Re: Bandwidth Limits/Congestion Management - All discussion here

It's about preserving a market and preventing other viable options from developing. This under the guise of so-called "excessive use".
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"We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it."
Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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However business users have received "the call" asking them to upgrade to a higher tier proportional to high bandwidth usage. So there is some sort of congestion at play here.


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