Topic 'College Football' in forum 'Sports Chat'

Topic 'College Football' in forum 'Sports Chat' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/College-Football-23008728 en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:03:35 EDT Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:03:35 EDT Re: Dogma's 2009 NCAA-F Season epilogue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dogmas-2009-NCAAF-Season-epilogue-23615503 said by dogma:

It's almost unbelievable that us as fans of the college game, still must argue about which team is best ... the day after the BCS title game. This reveals just how useless and meaningless the BCS title really is.

Had Alabama played through a 16-team playoff (just like DII), they would be the undisputed champions, without question.

Here are ALL D1 conference champions and the 5 at-large seeds for the 2009 playoff (if a real playoff were played):

(1) Alabama
(2) Texas
(3) Cincinnati
(4) TCU
(5) Boise State
(6) Oregon
(7) Ohio State
(8) Georgia Tech
(9) Florida
(10) Virginia Tech
(11) Iowa
(12) Brigham Young
(13) LSU
(14) Central Michigan
(15) East Carolina
(16) Troy

If we just walk through Alabama's run, week 1 they would have faced Troy, at home and demolished them. In this round, Texas beats East Carolina, Cincy eeks past Central Michigan, LSU surprises TCU (for you SEC guys), Boise beats BYU, Iowa over Oregon, Ohio St. outlast Virgina Tech, and Florida gets past GA Tech.

Week 2, in the "Sugar Regional", Alabama plays a rematch with Florida, and gets past them again. Texas routes Ohio St in the "Orange Regional", Iowa beats Cincy in the "Fiesta Regional", and Boise outlast LSU in the "Rose Regional".

Week 3. Alabama and Boise go to triple overtime, and Bama gets a very questionable pass interference call to go their way by a field judge wearing "NASCAR" labeled socks, and beats Boise by a field goal in the "Sugar Semi-Final". Texas rolls past a injury stricken Iowa squad in the "Orange Semi-Final".

Week 4. A By week. And of course, all of the other bowls are fielding their games from Dec. 7 through New years, just like now.

Week 5. First Saturday after New Years. True National Championship week. Did I mention that the Cotton was added to the BCS stable now that Death Star stadium is open? Anyway, the Title game is now rotated to the Cotton, where Texas meets Alabama... and you all know how that turned out.

Except, Alabama is now the undisputed National Champion. The Bronco's had their shot, and every conference winner had the exact same opportunity that the Tide had to put together a 4 game win streak and earn a National Title. Every player, when they walked into the weight room back in Winter training last January, KNEW they had a fair shot at winning the True National Championship. All they had to do was win their own Conference to receive that automatic playoff birth.

The Current BCS bowls are happier than a Saturday night sissy because their revenues have increased by at least 50%, not to mention each conference gets to share the new $13 Billion TV deal with ABC/ESPN, FOX, and NBC.

The only guys that are left out in the cold are the pathetic sports writers, the AP, 5 Walter Mitty computer geeks living in their mothers basement and most coaches who never, ever, played one down from scrimmage in their lives, yet completely determined which team was the mythical Champion for the past 100+ years.

Yes it is that simple.
I have to admit I would like a playoff, and your division 1 champs + 5 at large is a beautiful thing.

But no, it's not that simple. There is only one thing that runs everything in the country and it is money, and it's not going to get any better. What we are really talking about here is the redistribution of money and the power struggle associated with it. You have to know that those who presently hold power & money have had the finest CPA firms do cost/benefits for them, and playoffs come up short for them. Those with as much power and money, who desire more of it, will have to strip it from them.

BTW, please give me the educated paid professional's (sports writers) opinions on who are the best teams over the mostly rabid and ignorant fans. (Gosh, I hope you never need surgery with the operation performed by someone who stayed at a Holiday Inn Express the night before). :D
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Dogmas-2009-NCAAF-Season-epilogue-23615503 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:50:43 EDT Dogma's 2009 NCAA-F Season epilogue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Dogmas-2009-NCAAF-Season-epilogue-23614243 after the BCS title game. This reveals just how useless and meaningless the BCS title really is.

Had Alabama played through a 16-team playoff (just like DII), they would be the undisputed champions, without question.

Here are ALL D1 conference champions and the 5 at-large seeds for the 2009 playoff (if a real playoff were played):

(1) Alabama
(2) Texas
(3) Cincinnati
(4) TCU
(5) Boise State
(6) Oregon
(7) Ohio State
(8) Georgia Tech
(9) Florida
(10) Virginia Tech
(11) Iowa
(12) Brigham Young
(13) LSU
(14) Central Michigan
(15) East Carolina
(16) Troy

If we just walk through Alabama's run, week 1 they would have faced Troy, at home and demolished them. In this round, Texas beats East Carolina, Cincy eeks past Central Michigan, LSU surprises TCU (for you SEC guys), Boise beats BYU, Iowa over Oregon, Ohio St. outlast Virgina Tech, and Florida gets past GA Tech.

Week 2, in the "Sugar Regional", Alabama plays a rematch with Florida, and gets past them again. Texas routes Ohio St in the "Orange Regional", Iowa beats Cincy in the "Fiesta Regional", and Boise outlast LSU in the "Rose Regional".

Week 3. Alabama and Boise go to triple overtime, and Bama gets a very questionable pass interference call to go their way by a field judge wearing "NASCAR" labeled socks, and beats Boise by a field goal in the "Sugar Semi-Final". Texas rolls past a injury stricken Iowa squad in the "Orange Semi-Final".

Week 4. A By week. And of course, all of the other bowls are fielding their games from Dec. 7 through New years, just like now.

Week 5. First Saturday after New Years. True National Championship week. Did I mention that the Cotton was added to the BCS stable now that Death Star stadium is open? Anyway, the Title game is now rotated to the Cotton, where Texas meets Alabama... and you all know how that turned out.

Except, Alabama is now the undisputed National Champion. The Bronco's had their shot, and every conference winner had the exact same opportunity that the Tide had to put together a 4 game win streak and earn a National Title. Every player, when they walked into the weight room back in Winter training last January, KNEW they had a fair shot at winning the True National Championship. All they had to do was win their own Conference to receive that automatic playoff birth.

The Current BCS bowls are happier than a Saturday night sissy because their revenues have increased by at least 50%, not to mention each conference gets to share the new $13 Billion TV deal with ABC/ESPN, FOX, and NBC.

The only guys that are left out in the cold are the pathetic sports writers, the AP, 5 Walter Mitty computer geeks living in their mothers basement and most coaches who never, ever, played one down from scrimmage in their lives, yet completely determined which team was the mythical Champion for the past 100+ years.

Yes it is that simple.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Dogmas-2009-NCAAF-Season-epilogue-23614243 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:32:13 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23613710 said by jmn1207:

Their play this season warranted a second place ranking and a trip to the BCS championship. Do they have to be champions to be a great team? If that is your criteria, then emphatically no, by your standards they are not a great team. I suppose Florida was far from great this year as well?Florida's offense this year has been about 3 steps behind last years. No, I think I heard more than enough state that Florida was not in fact "great" this year as the loss of Percy and Mullen took a hit they didnt expect.

As for the 2nd place/BCS comment, again..come on man....so what (again, for the term great) ? You beat out....Boise State...and almost Cincy....and then lost the National Title game which few gave Texas a chance because of their average play this year against an average schedule.

Texas has never won a Big 10 title. :p

You know what, I will just agree that they WOULD have won the Big 10 title ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23613710 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:53:07 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23612771 said by Van:

Since you are going back several years as a way to justify them being 'great'....let's look at those last years....2 Big 10 Titles since '97? That is 2 Conference Titles in the last 13 seasons? Without Vince Young, this is their 1st in 13 years.

Texas is a very good program that played an average schedule this year.

Put them up against most NC teams the last 10 years alone, they win none of the games

Their team was good this year, far from great.

Nobody thought much of Texas chances last night for a reason. Their play most of this year hasn't warranted it
Their play this season warranted a second place ranking and a trip to the BCS championship. Do they have to be champions to be a great team? If that is your criteria, then emphatically no, by your standards they are not a great team. I suppose Florida was far from great this year as well?

Again, I was never suggesting that Texas was some kind of super team this season or even the year that they won the BCS championship. All I was trying to point out was that their body of work over the last 5-6 years was extremely impressive.

To read someone claim that they are far from great needed a bit of justification. It sounds like we just have an issue with the use of the word "great" and what it means specifically to each of us in this particular situation. They weren't exceptional, they weren't stellar, and they were not even close to awesome. I'll just agree with you and say they are a very good program.

Texas has never won a Big 10 title. :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23612771 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:15:44 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23612123 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23612123 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:25:54 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23611534
Final Top 25 AP Rankings 2010
1. Alabama 14-0
2. Texas 13-1
3. Florida 13-1
4. Boise St. 14-0
5. Ohio St. 11-2
6. TCU 12-1
7. Iowa 11-2
8. Cincinnati 12-1
9. Penn St. 11-2
10. Virginia Tech 10-3
11. Oregon 10-3
12. BYU 11-2
13. Georgia Tech 11-3
14. Nebraska 10-4
15. Pittsburgh 10-3
16. Wisconsin 10-3
17. LSU 9-4
18. Utah 10-3
19. Miami 9-4
20. Mississippi 9-4
21. Texas Tech 9-4
22. Southern Cal 9-4
23. Cent. Michigan 12-2
24. Clemson 9-5
25. West Virginia 9-4

Boise 14-0, no love.
Clemson with 5 losses, USC? Much love.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23611534 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:00:13 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23610987
Texas is a very good program that played an average schedule this year.

Put them up against most NC teams the last 10 years alone, they win none of the games

Their team was good this year, far from great.

Nobody thought much of Texas chances last night for a reason. Their play most of this year hasn't warranted it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23610987 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:42:34 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23609888 said by Van:

said by jmn1207:

said by dogma:

Really amazing that they did what they did under the circumstances. Probably shows that Alabama (as well as the SEC) isn't quite as good as their hype and press clippings.

Texas team was far from great even with Colt healthy and playing
This team was deservedly and consistently in the top of the polls over the last several years. They have won more games than just about every other team out there, and against some stout competition. Their bowl record has been outstanding. Lots of their players go on to be successful NFL players. They are always ranked in the top tier with their recruiting results. They have some of the biggest, strongest, and fastest athletes at nearly every position.

I'm not saying this is a team for the ages or that they are the best team out there, but Texas has a great program and their squad has been excellent lately.

Your comment is perplexing, to say the least. This team has recently won a championship, missed another chance by the smallest of margins last season, and played in a second championship game yesterday. They have remained a top 20 program or better throughout most of the entire 2000's, oftentimes being top 5 or better.

Texas had a great team. And if they did not, than there can only be 4 or 5 great teams out there, because I can't think of too many other teams that have been as consistently successful over the last few years. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23609888 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:38:46 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23609583 said by e_dub:

Advertising dollars at work..........
Is that some gay Mexican wrestler? :)
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said by dogma:

Really amazing that they did what they did under the circumstances. Probably shows that Alabama (as well as the SEC) isn't quite as good as their hype and press clippings.

No, Texas is really, really good. They are absolutely one of THE best teams over the last 5-6 years. Other than the last second loss to Texas Tech on the road (and the 4th straight top 12 team faced in a row), the only recent losses have come when Colt was injured. Kansas State twice, Oklahoma by a touchdown after sitting out all week with a concussion from that second loss to K. State, and another game against Texas A&M.

This Texas team is great. Alabama is just better, and their conference is superior.
Texas team was far from great even with Colt healthy and playing]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23609280 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:20:54 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608846 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608846 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:11:26 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608665

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608665 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:57:22 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608644 said by dogma:

Really amazing that they did what they did under the circumstances. Probably shows that Alabama (as well as the SEC) isn't quite as good as their hype and press clippings. No, Texas is really, really good. They are absolutely one of THE best teams over the last 5-6 years. Other than the last second loss to Texas Tech on the road (and the 4th straight top 12 team faced in a row), the only recent losses have come when Colt was injured. Kansas State twice, Oklahoma by a touchdown after sitting out all week with a concussion from that second loss to K. State, and another game against Texas A&M.

This Texas team is great. Alabama is just better, and their conference is superior.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608644 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:47:24 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608637

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608637 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:43:40 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608615
It's impossible to know how Texas would have done with Colt playing the entire game. The game would have certainly been different, but he did not play enough downs to really give anyone reason to believe he could have played well enough to earn a victory.

Regardless, the end result was very deceptive and the game was much closer than it appeared if you only saw the final score.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608615 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:35:13 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608604 said by dogma:

said by dogma:

If Texas gets within 3 touchdowns of Alabama, I will fall on my sword and publicly apologize to you and all the other Longhorn faithful. They are not a bad team, but I think the Title game will show they never deserved their ranking.

Texas fans, your squad fought and showed heart. They didn't fall apart after Colt's injury. They made a game out of it with a freshman QB. Really amazing that they did what they did under the circumstances. Probably shows that Alabama (as well as the SEC) isn't quite as good as their hype and press clippings.

The Horns didn't lose by three TD's/18 points (3 x 6), but almost. Therefore, I apologize for being a Texas hater all season.

There, I said it!
So you didn't think Bama was playing conservative? Run on 1st, run on 2nd pass on 3rd. No sweeps, no counters off tackle, no screen plays.
I'm beginning to like your posts, you bring humor to my day.

thanks :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608604 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:30:04 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608563 said by dogma:

If Texas gets within 3 touchdowns of Alabama, I will fall on my sword and publicly apologize to you and all the other Longhorn faithful. They are not a bad team, but I think the Title game will show they never deserved their ranking.
Texas fans, your squad fought and showed heart. They didn't fall apart after Colt's injury. They made a game out of it with a freshman QB. Really amazing that they did what they did under the circumstances. Probably shows that Alabama (as well as the SEC) isn't quite as good as their hype and press clippings.

The Horns didn't lose by three TD's/18 points (3 x 6), but almost. Therefore, I apologize for being a Texas hater all season.

There, I said it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608563 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:19:00 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608559

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608559 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:18:26 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608399 said by dogma:

Ooooh. 2nd unanswered TD. With a 2 point conversion!

I may have to make my apology to the horn fans after all.
I hope it happens now...
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I may have to make my apology to the horn fans after all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608379 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:36:45 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608288 said by dogma:

Ooooh. Texas TD. Comeback??
I'm a big fan, but that's too much to hope for I think.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608288 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:11:08 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608269 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608269 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:06:34 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608171 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608171 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:43:49 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608152 said by BigReds42:

said by vasta:

With or without the softy, Texas was going down

Did you watch the game until he got hurt?
I agree...McCoy made Texas a different team...but Bama wasn't playing as well as they are now. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608152 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:40:22 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608150 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608150 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:39:57 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608143 said by vasta:

With or without the softy, Texas was going down
Did you watch the game until he got hurt?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608143 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:37:51 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608018 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23608018 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:12:04 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23607881
After that TD, no chance.

Thems the breaks.
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would you like me to sharping the broad sword or rapier?? haha just kidding man good luck
It's time to stick a fork in this game with Colt sidelined. But really, Texas has not lost a game by more than a single possession since September...of 2007! In that game against Kansas State, McCoy had a concussion in the first half, but played in the second half and lost. This is not Texas-El Paso, but this team can't win without their starting QB. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23607777 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:22:15 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23607725 said by dogma:

If Texas gets within 3 touchdowns of Alabama, I will fall on my sword and publicly apologize to you and all the other Longhorn faithful. They are not a bad team, but I think the Title game will show they never deserved their ranking.

(Again, had we a true playoff system, we wouldn't be having this conversation).
would you like me to sharping the broad sword or rapier?? haha just kidding man good luck
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»www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/BCS/···lain.htm

Texas is currently ranked 30th while TCU and Boise State are 75 and 92, respectively.

»www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/polls/119

The problem with these one and done exhibition matches is that there is too much time between games for the biggest contests. All momentum gained during the season is lost, and the outcome is more about psychology and preparation. Teams with simple game plans can usually find their legs right away and are normally fine, while teams that rely on more complex schemes to be successful, on both sides of the ball, can sometimes look bad after being away for such an extended period. You can't reliably match the speed and force of a real game in practices. Teams with a running quarterback, and not necessarily as good as a Vince Young or Tim Tebow, often see great offensive success after a long layoff. Tucking the ball and running is instinctive and easy to fall back on, while at the same time being extremely difficult to defend unless the defense is well prepared and in sync, something not quickly reestablished after going a month or longer without playing in a real game.

In the last game that Alabama and Texas were in, it would seem that Texas would get demolished, but that was a long time ago.

Texas gets to be the underdog in this game, which is a significant relief from the tension-filled games toward the end of the their season. Not sure if the pressure had a significant role in their lackluster performances, but it will be interesting to see how they do when they are not the overwhelming favorite. Having most people expect the other team to beat you not only motivates you to prove everyone wrong, but it generates an atmosphere where you have nothing to lose. College players are fairly young and more susceptible to these emotional situations than NFL pros, and it could have a significant impact on the game's outcome.

My only hope for Texas success is the fact that the defenses that shut down their offense this year created pressure using only 4 linemen, and used 7 players in the backfield. And Nebraska had 4 great defensive linemen that caused all kinds of havoc without any help from the other defensive players. Alabama's defense is awesome, but they utilize a lot of complex blitzes and rely on their defensive back speed to bail them out. As we learned after the Utah vs Alabama game, that same defense that is confusing to the offense is not something that can simply be turned on and off after being away from the game for a long period of time. If Alabama tries blitzing Texas, and they are in perfect stride, Texas is doomed. It will still be close, because Texas has a very good defense as well, but Alabama should win by about 10 points, depending on the luck of the field position. Now, if McCoy reads the blitzes correctly and can hit short slants while Alabama tries to relearn the timing of their confusing defensive schemes, Texas could generate enough offense to win.

I still want a playoff, but at least we have a couple of undefeated teams that you can either love or hate to make the game more intriguing. Should be fun.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23600187 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:23:16 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23599804 said by dogma:

I thought we all agreed that there would be no lame excuses for a teams loss?
Don't see it as an excuse, just a fact. I am not a fan of Bama's whatsoever.

But they simply didn't prepare for Utah thinking it would be a runaway. Without their best OL and facing a solid team, they lost.

It happens in today's game.

But pointing to 1-2 games and claiming that is the reality of the situation when it clearly is the exception just hurts your argument]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23599804 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:19:14 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23599498 said by e_dub:

MWC is 2-0 over the SEC, do you and the other MWC faithfuls really believe Bama showed up for that game last year? ...blah, blah, blah ... Their minds are already thinking about the next level.

I'll become a sympathetic once the MW become relevant. :hmm:
I thought we all agreed that there would be no lame excuses for a teams loss? A few folks here viciously jumped all over a poster for expressing an opinion as to why Cincy didn't play well against Florida in the Sugar.

Take your losses with the same honor as you take your wins.

With that said, I agree with you. I can pull any idea out of my ass, like the MW is better than the SEC based on factual conference vs. conference bowl records. Anyone else can pull opinions out of their asses as well and claim the SEC should be an NFL conference based on, ... well, based on nothing factual.

But it doesn't matter. It's a smack talk. As long as SEC teams continue to hide out like Tiger Woods after getting head-clocked with a pitching wedge from scheduling "marquee" MW and WAC teams during the season, or a true 16-team playoff, we can continue to go back and forth forever with zero basis in reality.

Edit: Oh, and please, please don't let Texas beat Bama tomorrow. I have been hating all season on Texas not because they are a bad squad, but because their schedule was much weaker than TCU's. I don't think the horns have a snowballs chance, but that is solely based on my perception of their schedule. If Texas wins, you SEC fan boys will never, ever, hear the end of it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23599498 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:24:16 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23599312 said by dogma:

said by vasta:

I actually can't wait for them to get to one and play a good team (SEC) and get rolled to end these pointless questions

+1

Or a Good Pac-10/Big-10/Big-12/ACC/Big-East team. How soon we forget the spanking Alabama took last year at the hands of Utah. Just wanna block that SEC loss from memory? It's tempting to make excuses like Alabama didn't get up for the Sugar Bowl after losing the SEC title to Florida. But wait... there are NO excuses here as I recall.

Oh, and here are a few more Bowl game facts:
The Mountain West has never played the Big 10 in a bowl game, but owns a winning record against every other conference ...including the SEC... except the Big East and Navy (independent); the MWC is tied with the MAC.
All-time MWC bowl history vs. other conference opponents
MWC vs. ACC 1-0
MWC vs. Big 12 1-0
MWC vs. Big East 1-2
MWC vs. C-USA 5-4
MWC vs. MAC 1-1
MWC vs. Pac-10 6-5
MWC vs. SEC 2-0 *Sorry to deflate the make-pretend SEC dominance bubble with reality.
MWC vs. Sun Belt 1-0
MWC vs. WAC 6-2
MWC vs. Independents 1-2

TCU was the MW champ. Boise beat them. The MW is as good or better than the SEC. I won't say that about the WAC ... yet. Sorry, you can argue with me, but the facts speak for themselves.

I think you and I will get the BCS championship we want next year. Boise is only losing 4 players this season, 18 of the 22 starters are returning. At 14-0, they will START next season ranked #3 or #4 (assuming the polls don't hose them). Boise will play a highly ranked Virginia Tech team, a mid-ranked Oregon St. team, and perhaps a ranked Nevada team (if Nevada can finally get their shit together). Had Boise started this season ranked #5, and not #14, they would be playing Alabama Thursday.

Remember, we agree that the BCS is totally bogus. You, like me want to see the teams settle it all on the field, and not in the blogs and chat forums. I think we will finally get our wish next year.
You really can come up with some meaningless post.....

MWC is 2-0 over the SEC, do you and the other MWC faithfuls really believe Bama showed up for that game last year? Really? The starting star O-lineman didn't play because he had already contacted an agent. The coach even said during pre-game interview that his team wasn't ready and the previous week's practices leading up to the game they were still down because of the loss to Florida. It happens all the time with big schools who felt shafted by the BCS. The only thing they get out of bowl games is a large check for their schools. This can be meaningless to a senior or a underclassmen leaving early. Their minds are already thinking about the next level.

Let's be realistic here, Boise has to travel to other teams because that Smurf village they call a football field is too small to hold a large school. This is a business, how is anyone making money by going there.
Same with TCU, if you want to play the big boys, get a big boy facility. ESPN reported the other day that parking there is a headache.

But let this not be an attempt at bursting anyone's bubble. I applaud TCU's and Boise's accomplishments this year. But watching that game was like watching 2 elderly women eat oatmeal. What happened to the 2 high powered explosive offences that put up big numbers every game?
How would any of these teams beat Florida or Bama?
TCU ended their season beating no real ranked teams and Boise St. beat 16th ranked Oregon to open the season and beat #4 TCU in a bowl. Why did any of these teams deserve a chance to play for the NC.

Alabama ended their year beating 5 teams in the top 25, 3 of those teams were in the top 10.
Sept 3 - Va Tech 7th
Oct 10 - Mississippi 20th
Oct 17 - South Carolina 22nd
Nov 7 - LSU 9th
Dec 5 - Florida 1st

I'll become a sympathetic once the MW become relevant. :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23599312 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:51:48 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23597641 said by dogma:

I think you and I will get the BCS championship we want next year. Boise is only losing 4 players this season, 18 of the 22 starters are returning. At 14-0, they will START next season ranked #3 or #4 (assuming the polls don't hose them). Boise will play a highly ranked Virginia Tech team, a mid-ranked Oregon St. team, and perhaps a ranked Nevada team (if Nevada can finally get their shit together). Had Boise started this season ranked #5, and not #14, they would be playing Alabama Thursday.

I could have sworn I heard on the radio last night that they were only losing one starter.

And we all KNOW Boise will start out at least #8 or #9.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23597641 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:52:41 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23597369 said by aurgathor:

BTW, in the same year Boise State win a bowl game against OK, they were handily beaten by the Huskies.
That was the year afterwards. Boise went 13-0 the Oklahoma year.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Fiesta_Bowl]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23597369 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:59:43 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23596923
BTW, in the same year Boise State win a bowl game against OK, they were handily beaten by the Huskies. (who sucked after that win) »www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footb···aaa.html
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I actually can't wait for them to get to one and play a good team (SEC) and get rolled to end these pointless questions
+1

Or a Good Pac-10/Big-10/Big-12/ACC/Big-East team. How soon we forget the spanking Alabama took last year at the hands of Utah. Just wanna block that SEC loss from memory? It's tempting to make excuses like Alabama didn't get up for the Sugar Bowl after losing the SEC title to Florida. But wait... there are NO excuses here as I recall.

Oh, and here are a few more Bowl game facts:
The Mountain West has never played the Big 10 in a bowl game, but owns a winning record against every other conference ...including the SEC... except the Big East and Navy (independent); the MWC is tied with the MAC.
All-time MWC bowl history vs. other conference opponents
MWC vs. ACC 1-0
MWC vs. Big 12 1-0
MWC vs. Big East 1-2
MWC vs. C-USA 5-4
MWC vs. MAC 1-1
MWC vs. Pac-10 6-5
MWC vs. SEC 2-0 *Sorry to deflate the make-pretend SEC dominance bubble with reality.
MWC vs. Sun Belt 1-0
MWC vs. WAC 6-2
MWC vs. Independents 1-2

TCU was the MW champ. Boise beat them. The MW is as good or better than the SEC. I won't say that about the WAC ... yet. Sorry, you can argue with me, but the facts speak for themselves.

I think you and I will get the BCS championship we want next year. Boise is only losing 4 players this season, 18 of the 22 starters are returning. At 14-0, they will START next season ranked #3 or #4 (assuming the polls don't hose them). Boise will play a highly ranked Virginia Tech team, a mid-ranked Oregon St. team, and perhaps a ranked Nevada team (if Nevada can finally get their shit together). Had Boise started this season ranked #5, and not #14, they would be playing Alabama Thursday.

Remember, we agree that the BCS is totally bogus. You, like me want to see the teams settle it all on the field, and not in the blogs and chat forums. I think we will finally get our wish next year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23596761 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:13:40 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23596467
Something like does boise deserve to play in a national championship, Play shit teams (Yes I'm lumping TCU in there) to go 14-0 only to play in a championship and get shit on by a team that actually had to work to get there

I actually can't wait for them to get to one and play a good team (SEC) and get rolled to end these pointless questions]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23596467 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:59:30 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23594673 said by dogma:

Is it me, or are the babes in the TV crowd shots for both TCU and Boise kinda on the homely side? In contrast with the Taco Bell commercial with the gorgeous counter girls?

You are completely correct on both of your babes points.

And each time I see that Taco Bell commercial I am thinking that I would literally have a heart attack if I saw something like one of those two behind a fast food counter.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23594673 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:16:11 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23590032 and Boise kinda on the homely side? In contrast with the Taco Bell commercial with the gorgeous counter girls?

This alone may hurt recruiting for both squads.

I was expecting a score-fest and a defensive struggle breaks out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23590032 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:48:19 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589868 said by kw:

said by TCU fan :

Damn Refs are always on BSU's side

You've actually SEEN another BSU game this year?
Big 10 officials... trying to help out Boise... not for the reasons you may think.

All analysts agree that TCU has a much bigger argument for a share of the Nat'l Title if they go undefeated.

So why not help Boise win.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589868 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:18:19 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589783 said by TCU fan :

Damn Refs are always on BSU's side
You've actually SEEN another BSU game this year? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589783 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:00:10 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589698 said by jlhugh:

GO HORN FROGS!!!!
Such a BS PI call on TCU. Shoulda been offensive PI on Boise. Damn Refs are always on BSU's side]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589698 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:45:11 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589515
GREAT HORNY TOADS!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589515 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:06:24 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589059 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23589059 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:47:47 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23582989 said by mod_wastrel:

Yeah, because waiting a month or so to take that new job would have been so detrimental to his earning potential. Good analysis! Bravo!
Are you kidding me? Do you know how important 1 month of straight up recruiting actually is?

Absolutely it is incredibly important and could very well effect on how he does at ND ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23582989 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:23:32 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23582722 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23582722 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:06:02 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23582625
Plus, I'm backing Leach.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23582625 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:39:03 EDT Re: College Football http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23582107 said by tao:

If you missed the Texas Tech - Michigan State game, you missed a good one.
It was alright. I didn't expect the Spartans to hang with TTech for so long. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-College-Football-23582107 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:49:27 EDT