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reply to TSI Marc

Re: TSI R&V and Stay for UBB now in....

reply to R0CKY

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Dear Madams, Sirs:

Re: Process letter with respect to TekSavvy’s review and vary and stay
applications regarding Telecom Order 2009-484

In Telecom Order CRTC 2009-484, 12 August 2009 (Telecom Order 2009-484), the
Commission approved on an interim basis the Bell companies’ proposed two new GAS speed
options and rates, their proposal to introduce usage-based billing (UBB) for residential GAS,
effective 90 days from the date of the order, and their proposal to introduce an excessive
usage charge for GAS, effective the date the Bell companies notify the Commission that they
apply an excessive usage charge to all their retail customers on UBB plans.

In two applications to the Commission dated 11 September 2009, TekSavvy Solutions Inc.
(TSI) requested, for the reasons set out in those applications, that the Commission:
(1) review and vary its determinations in Telecom Order 2009-484 by amending
paragraphs 18 and 21 of that Order so as to rescind interim approval of UBB and the
excessive usage charge for GAS; and (2) stay the interim approvals granted in those
paragraphs of that Order, pending a Commission determination of TSI’s review and vary
application. TSI further requested that its applications be addressed on an expedited basis.

Parties may file comments on TSI’s two applications with the Commission, serving a copy
on TSI, by 25 September 2009. TSI may file comments in reply with the Commission,
serving a copy on parties, by 1st October 2009.

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That gives the commission a bit over a month to decide if they want to stay the interim implementation before it's scheduled to go into effect (which is to be November 10th by my count). It does appear that they are indeed addressing this on an expedited basis.

reply to Guspaz

reply to R0CKY
I apologise if this question has been answered before, but I want to bring it up so everyone here will be reminded.

Does a stay buy time for both sides or does it "delay the inevitable?"

Then a stay is pointless.

Mr Guspaz: you mention they have plenty of time. If Bell starts to issue UBB invoices nov 9th, consider that it will be using previous month's usage to generate those bills. So Oct 9th is when usage might become UBB billable.

The status of the FCA process hasn't yet changed. Will be interesting to see if the CRTC's fast acceptance of the combo Telksavvy process will cause the court process to be thrown out, at which point the CRTC can rule against both TSI's stay and R&V and Bell gets its day of glory.

We'll just have to wait and see how the ISPs and the two ottawa lobby groups that pretend to defend consumer interests end up arguing this at the CRTC.

Perhaps Bell will treat this like long distance rates and apply new rates for calls made after a certain date. The problem is with the 60 gig limit. Will they pro-rate this according to number of days between Nov 9 and whatever date they invoice your ISP ? How many people here know when Bell bills their ISP ? Lawyers are on a plane of existance where thet don't even know these details exist. Don't expect anyone to challenge Bell to define this.