Topic 'Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed' in forum 'Bell Canada' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23015186 en Mon, 20 May 2013 13:51:55 EDT Mon, 20 May 2013 13:51:55 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270868 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270868 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:32:03 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270831
So, that must be taken into account ... and then it's the "electrical length" that really matters. Junctions, splices etc. all add to the electrical length of a wire.

Then there's the quality of the cables ... have squirrels eaten them, has a contractor injured the cable while installing a swimming pool, has a tree root grown into the cable. All these things tend to let water in that usually doesn't impact the voice qualities of the line, but can totally destroy it's use for DSL.

So, length is only the beginning and that's only an estimate!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270831 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:22:36 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270709 said by ns90:

1. the max im getting is 3.45Mb/s and about 0.4 mb/s upload
i signed up for 6/1, but i called yesterday and found out its actually 7/1

2. the rep told me that i live about 3 km from the central office, the customers who live under 3km get closer to 6, but i did some reseach and found out im actually about 2.7km away

3. and the twdsm.margin_ds is 10 now
1.
Yup, thats right for a 4-meg profile (4032 is what you have). To get real life speed you need to take that 4032 and multiply it by ~85%.

so 4032x85%= 3.4 (which is what you have). So this is correct.

What you buy and sign up for is rarely what you get with Bell. If you look through this forum you will see this. With Bell (or any DSL provider) it's buyer beware.

2.
3km, 2.7km. 4km 1km.. all gravy. It does depend on distance, but also on the quality of the Bell land-line feeding you. Some people get even less than you at less distance.

For your attenuation (given there is no short affecting this value), what you have is "about right", though many have 5-meg.

If you want to see if it's your inside wiring that is maybe giving you a lower SNR (if its not due to the outside line itself), then search this forum for "testing at the demarc".

What the rep says and what happens in real life are two different things. Reps care only about a sale. That's it. That's all. With Bell it's buyer beware when calling them. This is a known fact as can be found through-out this forum.

3. an SNR jumping 1, 2 or even 3 points is no biggy and should be ignored. If it's more than 3 then there could be an issue at hand.

If it jumps from 9 to 6 then up to 12 or something, then the "spread" over time would be 12-6 = 6. 6 points is a lot and indicative of a problem that is indeed robbing you of the next higher up speed.

if it's 9, jumps to 10 then to 8, don't worry, the "spread" is nothing to be concerned about.

Review this forum more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270709 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:14:41 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270714
Also, ask them if there is a remote you can get on.

Do this first while reading up and doing forum searches.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270714 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:14:01 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270721
Your current 4mbps sync is the best your line can handle at the moment. Perhaps setting interleave (error correction) on your line could allow a higher sync speed at the expense of ping (response time).

As it has been said, post in the direct forum and ask for the upload to be increased to 800 kbps.

Keep in mind that you want a "stable" connection at all times. Increasing the download sync with an already low SNR is bound to be problematic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270721 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:50:59 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270629 i signed up for 6/1, but i called yesterday and found out its actually 7/1

the rep told me that i live about 3 km from the central office, the customers who live under 3km get closer to 6, but i did some reseach and found out im actually about 2.7km away

and the twdsm.margin_ds is 10 now]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270629 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:29:04 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270607
You have room for faster speed on the upstream.

So jump in the direct forum »Bell Canada Direct and tell them to give you what you are paying for and increase the upstream speed (unless of course if this SNR value of the upstream is jumping all over, which you can check yourself as said in the other post).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270607 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:26:36 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270591 said by ns90:

hey im new to this site

here are my stats

bell performance package (6mb/1mb)

the max im getting is 3.45mb and 0.40mb

twld.ds_capped_rate = 4032;

twdsm.attenuation_ds = 52.84; % Only calculated during training
twdsm.attenuation_us = 30.00; % Only calculated during training
twdsm.margin_ds = 9.00;
twdsm.margin_us = 15.00; % Only calculated during training
Given your attenuation, a 4-meg profile (~3.4 real life) is "about right". Some people get 5, some don't depending how the SNR is. Your SNR is at 9, and it appears you are on regular DSL.

If they bump you to 5-meg (fast) that SNR will drop around 6 and you will have problems.

What you can do is keep an eye on the SNR value (twdsm.margin_ds) over the course of the week and see how it changes. If you find it jumping from 9 to 6 then to 12, then yeah you have an issue that needs to be addressed and this would potentially give you 5-meg (if it actually jumps, if Bell gives you the time of day, if bells cares enough to address it and fix it, if its not an inside problem).

Want faster? Then you would have to go cable.

You could always ask in the direct forum if there is a remote in your area that you can be switched to w/o affecting cost, contract(s), etc etc.

But 4-meg (what you have) is "about right".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270591 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:26:16 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270608 us = 512kbps]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270608 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:25:09 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270526 twdsm.rate_net_us = 128;]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23270526 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:05:24 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23269089
twdsm.rate_net_ds
twdsm.rate_net_us]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23269089 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:22:56 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268834 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268834 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:57:52 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268758
How to find and post 2701HG-G line statistics]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268758 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:37:56 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268571
On your output it said

"twdsm.margin_us = 15.00; % Only calculated during training"

"margin_us" I have to assume is upstream signal-to-noise margin. I'm curious why the modem would say it's only calculated during training. That seems incorrect.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268571 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:50:17 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268507 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268507 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:33:01 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268480 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268480 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:26:20 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268472 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268472 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:24:14 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268467
here are my stats

bell performance package (6mb/1mb)

the max im getting is 3.45mb and 0.40mb

twld.ds_capped_rate = 4032;

twdsm.attenuation_ds = 52.84; % Only calculated during training
twdsm.attenuation_us = 30.00; % Only calculated during training
twdsm.margin_ds = 9.00;
twdsm.margin_us = 15.00; % Only calculated during training]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268467 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:22:41 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268387 said by dslrocker3:

Why Bell Canada chose Ikanos is beyond me. at the same time, I'm glad that I am connected to one, espcially when considering that last screenshot that I showed to you :)
Let's not pretend that they sat here with a list of known deficiencies like those you mentioned and said "We'll take it!". By the time all these bubble to the surface it's too late and you have to try and solve the problems as they exist today with the hardware you've selected.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268387 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:05:12 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268354
the max im getting is 3.45mb and 0.40mb

twld.ds_capped_rate = 4032;

twdsm.attenuation_ds = 52.84; % Only calculated during training
twdsm.attenuation_us = 30.00; % Only calculated during training
twdsm.margin_ds = 9.00;
twdsm.margin_us = 15.00; % Only calculated during training]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23268354 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:56:16 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23246012 said by wayjac:

said by dslrocker3:

I'm glad that I am connected to one, espcially when considering that last screenshot that I showed to you :)
Be glad that you have a short loop
There's a good chance that if the ikns dslam needs to be replaced bell may replace it with a dslam from another vendor
yeah but then I'll have to re-evaluate the best-match modem for my line. oh crap, I forgot something... With attenuation as low as mine and assuming that the IKNS upstream strangeness is elminated, it won't matter which modem I use! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23246012 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:12:16 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245998 said by dslrocker3:

I'm glad that I am connected to one, espcially when considering that last screenshot that I showed to you :)
Be glad that you have a short loop
There's a good chance that if the ikns dslam needs to be replaced bell may replace it with a dslam from another vendor]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245998 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:08:17 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245963 [/BQUOTE
epspecially all of the upload nonsense... permanent 6dB signal to noise, interleave reporting when really on fast path, 2wires only specifically acting like they are interleave when they are set to fast path, sync rates of 608,736,768, or 800 Kbps on the upload on the same line from 4 different modems, etc.. Why Bell Canada chose Ikanos is beyond me. at the same time, I'm glad that I am connected to one, espcially when considering that last screenshot that I showed to you :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245963 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:02:49 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245959 said by dslrocker3:

of course, considering that it reports 7616 Kbps on the IKNS when there's not such speed offered by Bell. lol. There was at least one other person in the Bell forum a few weeks who was wondering about that too and he was actually at 5056/800 Kbps. We were speculating that the 2wire modems will report 7616Kbps as the rate cap no matter what when connected to IKNS and that the number was fictional.
Yup I remember that one.

Cap rate = false rate
Net rate x4 = True rate.

I'd like to see just one more IKNS like this before saying it's for sure, but so far I have spotted two like this. So yeah, I believe it to be another defect in the IKNS reporting.

From now one I wil be asking people to post both. This may actually be a way to now confirm an IKNS remote.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245959 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:02:18 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245923
The ikns is just strange]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245923 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:53:58 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245828 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245828 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:36:50 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245735 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245735 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:17:57 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245706 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245706 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:13:23 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245691 said by dslrocker3:

What I'm trying to say is that the 2wire's log is set up so that it will say the capped_rate is 2496Kbps even if his line got worse and connected at something like 1856/800. twdsm.rate_net_ds would be a truer reprsentation of the current sync rate when this happens.
We just don't agree on that
The capped_rate [sync rate] always shows the current sync rate
I've never seen the capped_rate differ from the current sync rate as shown in the rest of the gui]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245691 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:11:22 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245617 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245617 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:00:13 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245607
2496/800 Kbps happens to be the exact rates allowed by the Bell Canada 2496/800 profile. It's not like he's connecting at 2496 because the higher speeds aren't acheivable. Bell Canada is liimiting it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245607 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:57:40 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245587
You're well aware that line conditions are in constant change]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245587 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:54:45 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245556 said by crazyguy1588:

your saying i should contact Bell and yell at them until they give me the full 6mbps speed that im paying? one of my friend lives 5 minutes from where i am (next village) and they get higher speed then i do for the same package. im concerned that im not getting the full package, since i do online games, i need better...wish i was back to my 10mbps in town with rogers...happy times...lol

i have the Bell Internet Performance.

link -

»www.bell.ca/shopping/internet.po···ewAccess
Yell in this forum (the Bell direct forum), it *may* go faster:
»Bell Canada Direct

Also tell them you want a credit for not having what you have been paying for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245556 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:49:22 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245505 said by wayjac:

Have you tried rebooting the modem.... if the sync rate [capped rate] does not increase to at least 6016kbps you need to talk to your isp
Hello, wayjac. With a Bell Canada's dslam, it is impossible to change the rate cap value unless Bell changes the profile setting. This rate cap value will always say 2496 Kbps on this line (unless the profile is changed) even if he connects at a lower speed because of bad line conditions. The value only represents a maximum sync rate that Bell Canada will allow your modem to connect .

And yes, crazyguy, your profile is set too low and you line is capable of better. You need to contact Bell to have a technician at the High Speed Centre change the profile setting. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245505 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:40:02 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245494
i have the Bell Internet Performance.

link -

»www.bell.ca/shopping/internet.po···ewAccess]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245494 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:38:09 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245468 said by crazyguy1588:

im paying for a 6Mbps connection....getting speed test of 2.14Mbps...my cap is low but can it be changed? and how.... tks
Your sync rate [capped rate] is 2496kbps or 2.49Mbps
Have you tried rebooting the modem.... if the sync rate [capped rate] does not increase to at least 6016kbps you need to talk to your isp

Do you know the actual purchased sync rate [capped rate] or does your isp only market speed [im paying for a 6Mbps]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245468 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:34:42 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245451 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245451 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:32:25 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245361
twld.ds_capped_rate = 2496;

twdsm.attenuation_ds = 8.57; % Only calculated during training
twdsm.attenuation_us = 6.00; % Only calculated during training

twdsm.margin_ds = 31.00%;
twdsm.margin_us = 9.00; % Only calculated during training

twdsm.rate_net_us = 200;

% Max Rate with Impulse Noise Compensation (5min intervals)
twld.max_rate_with_inc = [

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10776; 10780; 10780; 10780; 10796; 10800; 10788; 10800; ];]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23245361 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:19:00 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23239543 said by lilkidz:

Could someone check my line stats, please?
This faq can help you with this
How to find and post 2701HG-G line statistics]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23239543 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:16:32 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23237503 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23237503 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:49:20 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23237430 I have complained to Bell support when they had a support website, and they kept saying I was too far from the CO to get any more speed or bandwidth. I used to get 6mb download and they had me down to 2mb and recently I can't get over 1mb no matter what time of the day it is.
If they got me wired to Mississauga, no wonder they say I am too far away from the CO.
So anybody complaining about Bells speed, this how they do it. They got you wired the longest route possible. but as a customer I don't see how to fix this. Even changing ISP could get me the same results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23237430 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:22:57 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23237118
twld.ds_capped_rate = 8512;
twdsm.attenuation_ds = 16.45;
twdsm.attenuation_us = 1.70;
twdsm.margin_ds = 24.66;
twdsm.margin_us = 13.00;
twdsm.rate_net_us = 199;
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0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 18745; 18825; ];]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23237118 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:44:51 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235856 A speed test web site would show your throughput at about 6000kbps

If your sync rate was 8000kbps
A speed test web site would show your throughput at about 7000kbps

No upgrade is needed if bell has a offering faster than what you have now order it, if not no big deal you don't stand to gain much more throughput]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235856 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:32:30 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235761 said by calculated :

said by Mauricio:

Where do you see that value in the information he/she provided ? Or is it a rough estimate ?
Calculated.

A search on DSLr (various FAQS throughout the site) will explain occupancy and how to calculate it.

Same method used by DMT and anything else that calculates occupancy.

(Actual/max attainable) x100% = Occupancy
Hmm. Makes sense. Thanks ! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235761 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:05:13 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235707 said by Mauricio:

Where do you see that value in the information he/she provided ? Or is it a rough estimate ?
Calculated.

A search on DSLr (various FAQS throughout the site) will explain occupancy and how to calculate it.

Same method used by DMT and anything else that calculates occupancy.

(Actual/max attainable) x100% = Occupancy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235707 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:56:52 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235676
Do you know about anything I can do on my part or just sit tight and wait for Bell to upgrade my area, or add a plan to support me in the future.

Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235676 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:47:22 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235669 said by Anzio:

Is it possible to tell what my line can support with these stats I have posted above?
That last 11 lines of figures are the maximum attainable sync rate for the downstream
The highest max rate is 11408kbps and the lowest is 10996kbps

You line can easily support a 8000kbps downstream sync rate, the sync rate should be lower than the max sync rate for stability

The modem has been running for 6 to 8 hours if you allow the modem to run without rebooting that table of figures can accumulate about 5 days of info]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235669 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:45:14 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235420 said by looks ok :

Occupancy: ~62-64% stable enough.
Where do you see that value in the information he/she provided ? Or is it a rough estimate ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235420 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:35:51 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235188 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23235188 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:17:02 EDT Re: [Internet] Bell Internet Performance - Slow speed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23234545
Downstream: you have 7-meg and you don't appear to be on a defective IKNS remote.

SNR's are ok, lowish, but a safe level. Keep an eye on these to see how these values jump around.

Occupancy: ~62-64% stable enough. If the gap jumps more it's indicative of a problem, which tends to also show in the SNR normally as well (but not 100% always, depending on cause).

So it's ok. Nothing stellar.

Check the upstream value, see if there is room to increase the speed since the upstream SNR seems to indicate you have a bit of room should you not have the full advertised upstream speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Internet-Bell-Internet-Performance-Slow-speed-23234545 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:50:49 EDT