http://www.dslreports.com/forum/how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23019155 en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:35:00 EDT Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:35:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23059798
I don't know if that will be the case however... you and I are dealing with coops who will probably keep our speeds pretty tight under wraps in comparison to what some of the urban folks are getting.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23059798 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:58:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23042593 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23042593 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:01:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23039689 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23039689 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:01:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23039372
I discovered that New Hope Telephone Coop requires subscription to phone service with every internet subscription not for any technical reason, but for a business reason.

They receive a subsidy from the federal government for each phone line. Without the phone subsidy, they claim they would not be able to remain open.

It's pretty obnoxious really. $49.95 for their internet service marketed as "DSLMax" (1.5M down, but real speeds of 3M+ down are common; the same speed comcast offers just up the road). Then, tack on another $25 for their cheapest phone service.

So basically, I'm paying $75 / month for ~ 3M down. Yes, my butt does feel sore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23039372 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:59:39 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23038525
The various bandwidth meters I've tried online measure the connection at around 3M - 4M. Pretty disappointing if you ask me.

What really annoys me is that the coop still made us purchase phone service even though we don't have a land line - we only use cell phones.

I'd love for someone to be able to explain this necessity to me (obviously the customer service rep can't). I'm a software engineer, so I'm a technical guy, but this is just outside my experience. I would have though it would be something like Metro E. I have no idea why phone service would be necessary - it shouldn't be like DSL over phone lines, or so I thought; the coop sells it as "DSL", but there is no DSL modem.

Maybe someone can advise.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23038525 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:35:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23036019 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23036019 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:47:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23032784 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23032784 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:01:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23029490 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23029490 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:32:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23026156
Sounds like they are doing item 1, providing fiber to the premise (FTTP). Fiber optic cable runs directly to each customer's house.

Should provide very reliable service, fast and with low latency. You are the envy of all of us struggling with DSL, Cable and Sat.

/tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23026156 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:18:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23022402 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23022402 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:56:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23022384 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23022384 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:53:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23020141
Once you get above a megabit or so speed has little effect on latency.

Need more specifics about how fiber will be used. Will they provide fiber directly to customers? If so then both speed and latency should improve (latency because there is no modem signal processing with fiber).

Are they deploying remote terminals and offering higher speed DSL due to shorter distance to customers? In that case may get higher speed but latency will not change significantly.

Are they installing fiber for backhaul. In that case there is no direct affect to customers but latency may be improved due to decreased congestion within their network.

There are several ISP specific forums here at BBR. May want to post in one of them. Try running line quality test from the tools page and/or traceroute (tracert in Windows) to stable sites like BBR. Latency should slowly increase with distance and hop count.

DSL lines are normally interleaved to improve noise immunity. If signal stats are good enough want want to try fast-path. This will reduce latency a little at the expense of more noise induced errors.

/tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23020141 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:56:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23019155 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/how-much-will-new-Fiber-Optic-lines-benefit-me-23019155 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:38:07 EDT