 MaxxxtPeculiar Mental TwistPremium
join:2001-06-12
Denver, CO | reply to FenixSucks
Re: I think Qwest is blocking YOUTUBE I have been having problems with the constant buffering on Youtube for the last month or so, also allot of 404, resets etc. With Youtube video running I would get spikes of speed every other second at barely half of my total speed, not enough to keep a standard video going.
I reset my DNS to one public and one open DNS with VERY promising results, it works fine now.
I guess Qwest's routing is messed up. On another note I just opted out of Qwest's 404 hijack advertising as well, it kinda bothered me. I wonder If that new "service" has anything to do with the slowdowns? |
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nonymousPremium
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Glendale, AZ | Which new service? |
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 caffeinatorComing soon to a cup near you..Premium
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kudos:3 | reply to Maxxxt
Hmm, are you talking about the OpenDNS Guide page for loading errors?
like this: »guide.opendns.com/?url=www.mmogc···rt7.html |
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MaxxxtPeculiar Mental TwistPremium
join:2001-06-12
Denver, CO | reply to nonymous
I was talking about Qwest DNS redirecting "service".
»www.qwest.net/web.help/
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefruit
Not sure if it's related to slowdowns but I can't stand DNS redirect advertising. |
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caffeinatorComing soon to a cup near you..Premium
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kudos:3 | Ah, I see.
I'm not using Qwest as an ISP directly, so I'd never heard of that before. |
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1 edit | reply to Turbocpe
said by Turbocpe:I don't think this is a Qwest issue. With my cable ISP, some YouTube clips don't load, load slowly, and few load normally. YouTube has always been slow no matter what location or ISP I've used. same here
downgrading to flash player 9 might fix it
as 10.0 disables hardware acceleration = slower |
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1 edit | said by Anonymous_  downgrading to flash player 9 might fix it as 10.0 disables hardware acceleration = slower
Umm, where are you getting that info?
From the Flash 10 features page: »www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/features/
quote:
Hardware acceleration Enhanced
Use the hardware processing power of the graphics card to paint SWF files into the browser and accelerate compositing calculations of bitmaps, filters, blend modes, and video overlays faster than would be performed in software.
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Anonymous_AnonymousPremium
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| said by caffeinator:said by Anonymous_ downgrading to flash player 9 might fix it as 10.0 disables hardware acceleration = slower Umm, where are you getting that info? From the Flash 10 features page: » www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/features/ quote:
Hardware acceleration Enhanced
Use the hardware processing power of the graphics card to paint SWF files into the browser and accelerate compositing calculations of bitmaps, filters, blend modes, and video overlays faster than would be performed in software.
»www.adobe.com/products/flashplay···temreqs/ |
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1 edit | All that means is if your computer isn't up to the task of HD video, neither is Flash.
Mine isn't as it's got onboard Intel video from 2004...I'm not gonna blame Flash over it though. I can watch HQ vids on YT just fine, but my video chokes on HD because it's old. It's not a Qwest or Adobe problem.
Flash blows for quality anyways..watch THIS SITE and see true HD...
This is news?
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| Flash isn't really a determining factor in video quality. It is the codec, resolution, and bitrate that most influence quality.
The 1080p sources on CBS look great. Yes, they do look better if they are downloaded and played on a local player as opposed to streaming within the online flash player, but they still have very good quality either way. |
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3 edits | reply to FenixSucks
Just to add my experience...
I don't really use YouTube, but I have been experiencing VERY slow HD movie trailer downloads with my Apple TV for awhile now. Lately, they have been taking up to 2-3 minutes to start playing.
I switched my DNS servers in the router to OpenDNS servers and now HD movie trailers play after 30-45 seconds like they used to!
I've switched the DNS back and forth in the router from Qwest>OpenDNS several times to verify that it was in fact related to the DNS change, and I get repeatable results each time. Something is VERY wrong with the Qwest DNS servers. I'm no expert and I don't pretend to know how all this stuff works, but if changing a single variable repeatedly results in 3-4x faster/slower speeds, there is a serious problem. |
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| I doubt it is the DNS servers. DNS just performs a name lookup, and passes an IP address to the client for access.
More likely it is BGP issue, return path, or something along those lines. Very likely, using OpenDNS causes YouTube to send you to a different content delivery server than using Qwest DNS, and you are experiencing a difference in the path. In which case, there is no problem with the DNS servers.
OTOH, connection between the CDN (i.e., YouTube) and your IP network requires cooperation between the networks.
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i just upgraded to the 12 MB from qwest, and i have absolutley NO problems on youtube i watch it all the time |
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So I've been reading through this thread and so far have seen a bunch of jib jab instead of actual solutions. OpenDNS is an OK workaround, but it adds up to an extra 50-100ms to my ping. Does anyone have a real solution, or will this thread go on for another ten pages without providing any answers? |
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I've had 20 meg dsl for 6 month and no issues at all. |
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4 edits | said by longstreet:I've had 20 meg dsl for 6 month and no issues at all. Ditto.
I have the 7/896 service, upgraded from the 1.5/1 a few years ago. Both work just fine.
I think what people want is a perfect connect..fast all the time, no latency anywhere and cheap.
Newsflash: It does not exist.
Perhaps some think that packets from your computer go directly to your ISP and then wherever it is you're trying to go. This never happens. They are usually many hops that your ISP cannot control because they are outside of their network. The place you're trying to reach could be in a different timezone, a different country, or across the world.
When I ping seattle from spokane, it SHOULD go directly there right? It's only 300-odd miles, but that's not how the traffic is routed. Not even close. And there is nothing that can be done about that. It's all about peering arrangements, network conjestion, etc.
Changing DNS to other than your ISP's can help, or it might not. I use OpenDNS purely because they offer more features and arguably more security.
Here's a trace done just now...
--- 01/26/10 08:43:46 Pacific Standard Time
--- looking up host youtube.com
--- traceroute to youtube.com [74.125.45.100],
30 hops max, 18 byte packets
1 [ 192.168.0.1] 192.168.0.1 0 ms
2 [ 66.45.176.66] dsl1.spkn.tierpoint.com 45 ms
3 [ 66.45.176.65] 66-45-176-65.ptr.llix.net 46 ms
4 [ 66.45.179.33] 66-45-179-33.ptr.tierpoint.com 46 ms
5 [ 65.61.96.117] br2-20g-po6.spkn.tierpoint.com 46 ms
6 [ 65.61.96.30] pr1-ge-2-0.spkn.tierpoint.com 46 ms
7 [ 206.81.80.17] six.sea01.google.com 62 ms
8 [ 209.85.249.32] 209.85.249.32 62 ms
9 [ 72.14.233.117] 72.14.233.117 110 ms
10 [ 209.85.242.215] 209.85.242.215 126 ms
11 [ 72.14.232.215] 72.14.232.215 126 ms
12 [ 209.85.253.145] 209.85.253.145 142 ms
13 [ 74.125.45.100] yx-in-f100.1e100.net 126 ms
--- traceroute statistics for youtube.com
13 packets transmitted, 13 received
round-trip time (ms) min 0, avg 75, max 142
Notice how the ping nearly doubles as soon as it leaves my ISP, hits Google servers starting in Seattle and then bounces around inside Google's network on it's way to Cali? It's just how it is. The Internet is dynamic by it's very nature. It wasn't built to make any one person happy.
I've watched several YT vids today, including some embedded into Google News and other sites. They play just fine within seconds.
Perhaps you people with problems need to contact Google and ask them to look at their peering arrangements with Qwest?
*edit again..damn typos*
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 MHoltumPremium
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kudos:3 | reply to FenixSucks
I have never had an issue loading vids off of Youtube and I am on that site every day.
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works fine here |
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This may be an issue with some of Qwest's DNS servers, but it is not Qwest throttling these domains by design. I have no issues with my 3072/640 connection on Qwest DNS or OpenDNS either. |
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