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sundevil

@cox.net
reply to Hwnsista

Re: [Scam] Ebay Motors Scam

I think I may be involved in this scam as well but I am in the process of making the decision to buy it or not. Can you please take a look at these emails and the information to help me out.

Ok, the first thing that made me think this deal is too good to be true is:

-Listed on Craigslist
-2004 Nissan 350z for $4300 with only 37,000 miles on it. (wow?)
-I sent an email to the person asking the standard questions about if it had been sold yet, any accidents, VIN#, etc?
-The person replies in an email... 2 MINUTES LATER!
Here is that email:

Hello there,
I'm writing you regarding my 2004 Nissan 350 Z.
The car it's in perfect condition. Paint and everything else is flawless.
The car has a clear title and it has only 37,200 miles on it.
The price is not negotiable, if you are interested in buying it, the price is $4,300. I sell the car at this price because I cannot enjoy it due to my job (I work as a casino dealer on a cruise ship) and I'm a single woman and I have nobody close who can use it.
All documents, including owner's manual, clear title and a bill of sale on your name will be provided along with the car. Also about payment and shipping I will use only eBay Purchase Protection so we can both be protected. I am looking forward to hear from you.

Thank you!

Ok, first of all, all these scams seem to have the same message that they are "out of town" and they can have the car shipped via a friend or someone. Second, I also asked other questions like "does the ac work?" "how many owners", etc. and none of these questions were answered directly. The email seemed to be a copy/pasted drawn up letter.

So I replied to the email again - asking for the VIN # so I could research the car history. This was the reply:

Hello,

Sorry for my late reply. I have to tell you that I'm currently at work.. As I already told you, I work as a dealer on a cruise ship and for this reason I chose to sell my car over the internet. The car it's in Chagrin Falls, Ohio at the shipping company, it's already packed and waiting to be shipped anywhere.. I have a friend there at DAS who will manage me a low price shipping and I assumed that it's from me to pay for shipping it. You will receive all the documents of the car (owner's manuals, keys, clear title, bill of sale) in order to register it under your name.
If you are interested to purchase the car, I have done some researching and the best way to close the deal is through eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program. The transaction fits the Vehicle Protection plan and will be covered by eBay. Vehicle Purchase Protection reimburses buyers who are involved in a vehicle transaction through their program. The program provides reimbursement for all the situations that can appear in a transaction. The money will be sent to an eBay agent. After the payment is confirmed and secured by eBay I will start the shipping. The car will be in front at your door in max 3 days. From the moment you receive the car you have a 5 days inspection period. After the 5 days you have to decide if you want to keep the car or not. If you'll keep it, the payment will be released to me. In case you will not like the car and decide not to keep it, you will have to ship it back and you will be fully refunded.
If you agree I will need your full name and complete shipping address, your phone#.

Thank you!
P.S. The VIN # is .....(deleted it for privacy issues in this forum, not sure if i need to, but just in case)

I did a vehicle history report of the car and it is in fact the correct car, correct mileage as stated, and has a clean history. However, why did I find this car listed on Phoenix, Arizona search of used cars when the car is in Ohio and she works on a cruise ship?

There has been more emails back and forth, but basically a lot of red flags are going up in my head about this being a legit deal.

-Email response in only 2 minutes in what sounds like a copy/pasted response to any emails sent to that email.
-Car is way underpriced for the type of car and mileage
-Talked with ebay representative online and she confirmed that they DO NOT hold onto money between buyer and seller as the buyer approves or disapproves of the car that is purchased.

FINAL NOTE: As I finally finished this long post, I went back to the listing on craigslist and noticed that the car listing has been flagged for removal. I figured I would still post this so that if anyone gets contacted by this person they will avoid it. The name of person was Sabrina Bullock.


rzaruba

join:2000-08-04
quote:
However, why did I find this car listed on Phoenix, Arizona search of used cars when the car is in Ohio and she works on a cruise ship?
Well, because it's a FRAUD.

K Patterson
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Maybe the cruise ship stops in Phoenix.

I've noted a big reduction in this kind of ad on our local Craigs list


Kibbles
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Mission Viejo, CA
reply to sundevil
Tell them you are in the area and want to see the vehicle in person..they then stop responding.

On the Orange County Craigslist there are 3-5 of those scams posted every day...just put a max of $5,000.00 in the search.
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reply to sundevil
said by sundevil :

I think I may be involved in this scam as well but I am in the process of making the decision to buy it or not. Can you please take a look at these emails and the information to help me out.

Ok, the first thing that made me think this deal is too good to be true is:

-Listed on Craigslist
-2004 Nissan 350z for $4300 with only 37,000 miles on it. (wow?)

If you are interested to purchase the car, I have done some researching and the best way to close the deal is through eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program. The transaction fits the Vehicle Protection plan and will be covered by eBay.

I did a vehicle history report of the car and it is in fact the correct car, correct mileage as stated, and has a clean history. However, why did I find this car listed on Phoenix, Arizona search of used cars when the car is in Ohio and she works on a cruise ship?

-Talked with ebay representative online and she confirmed that they DO NOT hold onto money between buyer and seller as the buyer approves or disapproves of the car that is purchased.
All that you have to do to know it is a Scam is to read what the eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program actually is and how it really works. Don't automatically trust what is in the email as being true or accurate, read the eBay Web Site! Buyer Beware! Educate Yourself or lose money...

If there is not an auction page listing on »motors.ebay.com which has the exact vehicle listed by VIN then you are being scammed as that is the only way to be enrolled in the VPP ["You are automatically enrolled in the program at no charge when you complete the purchase of an eligible vehicle on the eBay Motors site (motors.ebay.com). "] Otherwise, 100% Scam! No Doubt about it!

Is the car listed in an Auction or Buy It Now sale page at »motors.ebay.com ?

• If Yes, then buy it ONLY through the eBay Web Site after reading all terms at the eBay Web Site.

• If No, it is 100% a SCAM! No, Craigslist purchases or via email purchases are not covered by eBay Motors VPP.
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