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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS

entry level, kaching!

Sure, at $70 a pop for entry level stand-alone.. why wouldn't it be? FTTP is an expensive service, although they've boosted the download and upload from 15/2 to 25/15, you get hosed for a few more dollars. Now let's do the math people:

10 megabits at $20 price difference.. that's $2 a megabit download

13 megabits at $20 price difference (upload).. that's $1.54 per megabit more

** price not including any discounts, bundling, or other (i'm leaving the cable company) broadband rebates.

jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

I have U-verse 18/2, and it is cheaper than Fios, but not as nice.... The TV portion is $99. For new customers it's $109. The image quality is not nearly as good as Fios. Eh, I think Fios is an okay value, but the service itself is wonderful.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to tmc8080
DSLExtreme has a 10/2 tier for $40, cheaper than cable 'round these parts.


JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
Downingtown, PA
kudos:1

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said by tmc8080:

Sure, at $70 a pop for entry level stand-alone.. why wouldn't it be? FTTP is an expensive service, although they've boosted the download and upload from 15/2 to 25/15, you get hosed for a few more dollars. Now let's do the math people:

10 megabits at $20 price difference.. that's $2 a megabit download

13 megabits at $20 price difference (upload).. that's $1.54 per megabit more

** price not including any discounts, bundling, or other (i'm leaving the cable company) broadband rebates.
Actually... I think you need to check your math. $70 for entry stand-alone? Um... no:

»www22.verizon.com/Residential/Fi···lans.htm

Entry price, for stand-alone, if you're not a Verizon phone customer: $55 for 15/5 service. If you're a phone customer (note - this isn't a bundle price - you just get an automatic discount if you happen to also be a Verizon phone custmoer), it's $5 cheaper.

rebus9

join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Verizon FiOS

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said by tmc8080:

Sure, at $70 a pop for entry level stand-alone.. why wouldn't it be? FTTP is an expensive service,
Speaking as someone who turned up new FIOS service last month......

My "entry level" service is $49.99 (not a teaser rate) and my speed tests results are consistently 25/15.

Compare that with 7/512 Road Runner service at $47.95 and 7.1/768 Verizon DSL at $42.99.

I'd say FTTH is significantly cheaper per megabit than plain old cable internet and DSL.

Eek2121
Lovin Verizon FIOS

join:2002-10-12
Newton, NJ
Reviews:
·Service Electric..

reply to tmc8080
Hi,

My FIOS is $47.00 for 20/20 (with triple play.) I pay no equipment fee. My friend has comcast cable, $42.95/mo, $5.00 modem fee. In other words, he pays $0.95/mo more then me for a way crappier connection. My bill averages $130/mo, but thats with HBO, Showtime, etc. I'd hardly call that expensive.


ssavoy
Premium
join:2007-08-16
Henrietta, NY

reply to rebus9
Our DSL connection is $44.99, 2.2mb down, 300kb up. Welcome to the New Frontier.



dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4

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said by tmc8080:

Sure, at $70 a pop for entry level stand-alone.. why wouldn't it be? FTTP is an expensive service, although they've boosted the download and upload from 15/2 to 25/15, you get hosed for a few more dollars. Now let's do the math people:

10 megabits at $20 price difference.. that's $2 a megabit download

13 megabits at $20 price difference (upload).. that's $1.54 per megabit more

** price not including any discounts, bundling, or other (i'm leaving the cable company) broadband rebates.
Well i don't see anyone other than cablevision[avail only in 3 states] offering 15mb upload so for 95% of the people the price point is moot.
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS

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said by dvd536:

said by tmc8080:

Sure, at $70 a pop for entry level stand-alone.. why wouldn't it be? FTTP is an expensive service, although they've boosted the download and upload from 15/2 to 25/15, you get hosed for a few more dollars. Now let's do the math people:

10 megabits at $20 price difference.. that's $2 a megabit download

13 megabits at $20 price difference (upload).. that's $1.54 per megabit more

** price not including any discounts, bundling, or other (i'm leaving the cable company) broadband rebates.
Well i don't see anyone other than cablevision[avail only in 3 states] offering 15mb upload so for 95% of the people the price point is moot.
Apparently, the price & speeds offered may depend upon your ZIP CODE and any old grandfathered previous plans/prices you may continue to have... The above typically applies to NY metro. Since your local duopoly competitors outside this region don't care to offer better priced service/deployments, Verizon will only oblige the competition as much as it has to, and not more. This is a common refrain in the state of brodband competition, as mentioned in quite a number of threads.

One would in times past argue that since there isn't the same amount of fiber distributed throughout the country as there is in the notheast, that the cost of getting customers to the broadband backbone costs somewhat more was true, but every major city in the USA (served by AT&T or Verizon uverse or fios) should have adequate bandwidth to offer 50/50 to every customer who wants & can afford it... whether that speed is offered by the local telco or cableco is another story.


cableties
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join:2005-01-27
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

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I believe my uptime compared to (Comcastic) is 99.8%. And that is only due to issue with "outside" interference (some idiot took out a pole).

The pricing is also market-based. I have dropped my FiosHD (Who needs $800/yr?) but changed package to 15/5 and phone plan. I get another (whoopee) $5/mnth discount and yes, $70 (not including the $15 in collective tax/fees/crap). But that is $35 for Unlimited National calling, and $35 for 15M down and 5M up per month.

Not bad. But its been reliable.

Now if we were talking about Verizon's Billing .... F F F F and F!
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Splat


elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·RoadRunner Cable

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said by tmc8080:

Sure, at $70 a pop for entry level stand-alone.. why wouldn't it be? FTTP is an expensive service, although they've boosted the download and upload from 15/2 to 25/15, you get hosed for a few more dollars.
Our 3rd-party FIOS is $42 a month including tax, completely unbundled. For that matter, our 3rd-party "unlimited" Verizon cellphone service is less than $35/month.

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