 Marduk join:2004-09-05 West Chester, PA | reply to psx_defector
Re: Get your tinfoil hats out! said by psx_defector:The Incredible Hulk is not a science education show. We are bombarded with radiation every single day, in magnitudes much greater than what is put out even directly in front of a wireless communications tower. All I said was that radiation causes mutation. It's a true statement.
Just like second hand smoke causes lung cancer. Granted they have to pump metric tons of it into a mouse to be able to claim it, it's still true nonetheless. |
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 | said by Marduk:All I said was that radiation causes mutation. It's a true statement. No it is not and hopefully this definition will aid you: "radiation describes any process in which energy emitted by one body travels through a medium or through space, ultimately to be absorbed by another body."
Therefore if your statement was true, the only safe environment for humans would be in a dark vacuum maintained at -273 C. Good luck with that one. 
Certain types of radiation (Ionizing for example) can bring about mutations, also mutations do not necessary result in cancer. |
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 Marduk join:2004-09-05 West Chester, PA 1 edit | said by Thane_Bitter:said by Marduk:All I said was that radiation causes mutation. It's a true statement. No it is not and hopefully this definition will aid you: "radiation describes any process in which energy emitted by one body travels through a medium or through space, ultimately to be absorbed by another body." Therefore if your statement was true, the only safe environment for humans would be in a dark vacuum maintained at -273 C. Good luck with that one.  Certain types of radiation (Ionizing for example) can bring about mutations, also mutations do not necessary result in cancer. Oh okay, you're right.
Radiation does not ever cause mutation, got it.
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 | Lol murdok. Your subtle but effective comeback made me really laugh out loud. |
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 neowulf join:2000-10-20 Port Orange, FL | How exactly is that a come back?
"Certain types of radiation (Ionizing for example) can bring about mutations, also mutations do not necessary result in cancer."
Is a true statement. Ionizing, such as X-Ray can cause a mutation, but does not mean it will turn into cancer. This happens everyday. You are in the sun, UV rays hit your skin, which alters your DNA causing a mutation, cancer, but DNA is self-repairing and is generally able to correct the damage done by the sun before the cancer is able to replicate causing the cancer to grow. So already he is agreeing that radiation does cause mutations. But it does not mean all radiation causes a mutation, not all radiation is equal in terms of how dangerous they are to cause DNA mutation.
Non-ionizing radiation, such as radio-frequency energy or microwave radiation would have trouble causing a mutation, the wave length is far too broad. It would require so much direct energy to cause a mutation with non-ionizing radiation that before mutation could take place the cell would die of from over exposure to heat energy output. So technically it is impossible to cause a mutation from non-ionizing radiation such as a cell tower.
Having your crops out in the sun with UV rays is much more likely to cause the mutation that this farmer is worried about. |
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 Marduk join:2004-09-05 West Chester, PA | reply to sonicmerlin People just like to argue. It's just ridiculous. |
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 bicker join:2007-05-10 Burlington, MA | It isn't that, really: Rather, people simply want an unrebutted platform for their own personal perspective. Some folks clearly cannot accept the fact that there isn't any definitive evidence that shows that the garlic absolutely and positively won't be adversely affected. They want to claim that everything is perfectly safe, that is up until the damage is already done, and then they'll take the side of "the farmer should have known". Essentially, they just want to blame others for everything that they don't like, instead of accepting reality.
Personally, I believe the risks are low enough that I think the farmer should allow it, but that's easy for me to say. I'm not the one that morons would come after with pitchforks if something bad happens to a young child who ate a lot of garlic and mob mentality takes over. |
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 PDXPLT join:2003-12-04 Banks, OR | reply to Marduk I guess the science education in the schools in West Chester, PA is as bad as it apparently is in Nova Scotia.
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| reply to Marduk said by Marduk:Oh okay, you're right. Radiation does not ever cause mutation, got it. Thanks! LOL ! (that was pretty funny) |
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 Marduk join:2004-09-05 West Chester, PA | reply to PDXPLT said by PDXPLT:I guess the science education in the schools in West Chester, PA is as bad as it apparently is in Nova Scotia. I recommend you go to this website immediately, and learn about how urgent this threat really is: » miscellanea.wellingtongrey.net/2···devices/ Yes, the Northeast is known for the worst education ever! |
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