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Re: Net Neutrality has been and will be good for the 'Net! said by funchords:All you industry fans that are so dejected today, chin up. This is great for you! No. "Network neutrality" is great for Google, which pays your salary. But it is bad for ISPs, bad for innovation, and bad for consumers.
Fortunately, the article above is short on facts and long on conjecture. Genachowski has said (see my earlier message in this thread) that he does not believe the FCC should regulate when markets are working. The broadband market is vibrant and highly competitive, so by Genachowski's own criteria no regulation is necessary and none should be imposed. |
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| said by SuperWISP:said by funchords:All you industry fans that are so dejected today, chin up. This is great for you! No. "Network neutrality" is great for Google, which pays your salary. But it is bad for ISPs, bad for innovation, and bad for consumers. Seriously....really did you just write that?
Your bitterness has truly gotten the best of you. The genie is out of the bottle, bandwidth is cheap and plentiful when in the right hands.
So please explain to us how and open internet is bad for us? Please remember to cite examples of how it is better for ME than YOU limit my choices?
Please remember to give examples, because as of yet you have never provided a scrape of evidence to support anything you say. |
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| said by DataRiker:The genie is out of the bottle, bandwidth is cheap and plentiful when in the right hands. OK, Mr. Genie, let's see you obtain Internet backbone bandwidth -- at wholesale -- in my city, Laramie Wyoming, for less than $80 per Mbps per month. Oh, what's this? You can't? Then quit falsely claiming that bandwidth is cheap. |
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2 edits | On my current ISP I have used up to 800 GB at 59.00 USD per month.
That is less than $ 0.08 cents per Gigabyte.
If your too lethargic to keep up, please get out of the way and let real companies offer progressive products.
Oh, and I'm still waiting to hear how when you limit my choices and restrict my internet its good for me. You made this claim now you should back it up. |
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1 edit | said by DataRiker:On my current ISP I have used up to 800 GB at 59.00 USD per month. That is less than $ 0.08 cents per Gigabyte. Which shows that you do not know a gigabyte of data from a data rate in megabits per second, and therefore are not qualified to comment. |
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3 edits | Please give me this magical formula that computes my ISP's wholesale cost from my measured cost?
Your logic is astounding.
I will give you a clue - data rate and volume are connected. I can only measure my total volume, versus my cost since I don't have insider knowledge of my ISP.
By the way, most larger companies do not publish what there bandwidth costs actually are, mainly because many have their own backbone and have for the most part secretive agreements between other backbone providers about transit agreements.
And also to clarify most private companies who do not trade traffic, like you SuperWISP would almost certainly have one of two choices burst-able bandwidth sold at a percentile, or a dedicated line (usually more expensive). From the quality of your posts I doubt you understand the difference.
still waiting for an example how consumers will be hurt by an open and free internet |
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| said by DataRiker:I will give you a clue - data rate and volume are connected. I can only measure my total volume, versus my cost since I don't have insider knowledge of my ISP. Good point riker. How could you possible know your ISP's aggregate data rate? Looks like someone needed a quick math lesson. Thats sad
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said by DataRiker:I will give you a clue - data rate and volume are connected. And I'll give you a clue: this is only true if the connection is saturated.
said by DataRiker:I can only measure my total volume, versus my cost since I don't have insider knowledge of my ISP. Which is exactly the point. You're lashing out, blindly, without having any knowledge of how an ISP works or what its cost structure is like.
Oh, and by the way: no ISP is seeking to prevent the Internet from being "open." However, they certainly will never make it "free" in the sense that you would like. (You seem to confuse "free speech" with "free beer." Sorry, but bandwidth isn't free.) |
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| Ok, a quick math lesson indeed Random_Nut. I'm really going to have to dumb this down a bit.
When adults talk hypothetically we usually assume maximum utilization, the so called theoretical capacity.
How could one ever possible know exact pattern of usage? And better yet, WHY would anyone ever use that?
I think its safe to assume saturated (unless you would like me to pick a useless random number?) - YIKES !
Please go familiarize yourself with a basic science book. |
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