Topic 'Stay away!I' in forum 'Millenicom users forum' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Stay-awayI-23054571 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:43:09 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:43:09 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23261641 said by songsearch:

If the few mobile broadband providers were'nt all working in lock-step and there was real competition, they couldn't get away with this deception. This is what happens when you privatize services that should be public utilities available to all.
Oh another advocate for big brother government. The companies are doing what is necessary to protect their systems and to provide reasonable service to "ALL" it's customers. Not just a few. Verizon and Sprint are doing that. I can't speak for the other providers.

When customer demand indicates that a change in service is warranted you can bet the companies will respond. Right now the return on the investment that would be required just is not there or they would have already done it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23261641 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:01:38 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23261423
The promises these companies make regarding bandwidth and unlimited services are just advertising gimmicks thrown out there to entice ignorant potential customers, which are discarded once they have a large enough customer base to lose the few who realize they've been scammed. Bait and switch, plain and simple.

If the few mobile broadband providers were'nt all working in lock-step and there was real competition, they couldn't get away with this deception. This is what happens when you privatize services that should be public utilities available to all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23261423 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:27:36 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23133401 --
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To replace Millenicom? A Sprint "Everything Data" plan, a Windows Mobile phone, and a little app called "WMWiFiRouter", which lets me share my data connection via USB, Bluetooth, or WiFi. Even considering taxes and surcharges, I'm still paying less with Sprint than I was with Millenicom, plus now in addition to unlimited data, I also get voice phone service. That's fine except when EVDO is your only broadband and you share it with the family.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23132685 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:25:56 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23130521 said by kubel:

VRod105, I'm with you. Yeah, there are a lot of Millenicom fanboys here. There are a few unhappy-but-still-paying customers. And then there are those of us that just ditched Millenicom altogether.

Legally, they could stop offering the service at any time, since technically, the "contract" is month by month. Their only obligation is to provide you with a month of service if you pay for it. But what got me upset was that I paid up front for a modem that would be pretty much useless unless I opted for their +$10 service. In my mind, it was bait and switch, and I made it very clear to them what I thought.

After a few emails back and forth, they eventually agreed to refund me the price of my modem if I sent it back. It took them a few days after they took possession of the modem to refund me, but I eventually saw the credit and was happy to have this business relationship severed.

To replace Millenicom? A Sprint "Everything Data" plan, a Windows Mobile phone, and a little app called "WMWiFiRouter", which lets me share my data connection via USB, Bluetooth, or WiFi. Even considering taxes and surcharges, I'm still paying less with Sprint than I was with Millenicom, plus now in addition to unlimited data, I also get voice phone service.

The pros:
-Unlimited data.
-Cheaper than Millenicom ($57.93/mo for unlimited data compared to $59.99/mo for 5GB).
-450-minutes of voice included.
-Free calls to/from any cell phone, any provider.
-No cards to plug in and stick out, I can connect wirelessly if I want.

The cons:
-My particular phone model overheats with extended use and eventually stops charging and runs out of battery power while tethering.
-It's a contract- so I'm locked in for 2 years unless they change the terms of their contract or raise fees, then I can get out without paying a early termination fee.

I wish I would have waited for the Touch Pro 2, because the overheating issue with the Tough Pro is annoying. But that's my only complaint. Overall, I'm happier with Sprint than with Millenicom.
hey, great post....instead of the usual complainers you actually suggest an alternative...ill stay with Millenicom for now and hope they get some things ironed out(like their aws plan) - they aren't perfect but they have always been decent to me....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23130521 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:53:29 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23129172 --
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Legally, they could stop offering the service at any time, since technically, the "contract" is month by month. Their only obligation is to provide you with a month of service if you pay for it. But what got me upset was that I paid up front for a modem that would be pretty much useless unless I opted for their +$10 service. In my mind, it was bait and switch, and I made it very clear to them what I thought.

After a few emails back and forth, they eventually agreed to refund me the price of my modem if I sent it back. It took them a few days after they took possession of the modem to refund me, but I eventually saw the credit and was happy to have this business relationship severed.

To replace Millenicom? A Sprint "Everything Data" plan, a Windows Mobile phone, and a little app called "WMWiFiRouter", which lets me share my data connection via USB, Bluetooth, or WiFi. Even considering taxes and surcharges, I'm still paying less with Sprint than I was with Millenicom, plus now in addition to unlimited data, I also get voice phone service.

The pros:
-Unlimited data.
-Cheaper than Millenicom ($57.93/mo for unlimited data compared to $59.99/mo for 5GB).
-450-minutes of voice included.
-Free calls to/from any cell phone, any provider.
-No cards to plug in and stick out, I can connect wirelessly if I want.

The cons:
-My particular phone model overheats with extended use and eventually stops charging and runs out of battery power while tethering.
-It's a contract- so I'm locked in for 2 years unless they change the terms of their contract or raise fees, then I can get out without paying a early termination fee.

I wish I would have waited for the Touch Pro 2, because the overheating issue with the Tough Pro is annoying. But that's my only complaint. Overall, I'm happier with Sprint than with Millenicom. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23128680 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:28:24 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23077699 said by mooch:

said by EvdoUser :

What contract law, there is NO CONTRACT. What about this do you people not understand?
"you people" ?? Huh?

The only person in this thread who's talking about Millenicom not complying with a contract is Vrod105. Please back off with the "you people" lingo.
One poster does not equal "you people". I haven't seen anyone but Vrod105 post that doesn't understand contract vs lack of contract. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23077699 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:29:33 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23075963 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23075963 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:37:00 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23074982 said by EvdoUser :

What contract law, there is NO CONTRACT. What about this do you people not understand?
"you people" ?? Huh?

The only person in this thread who's talking about Millenicom not complying with a contract is Vrod105. Please back off with the "you people" lingo.
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It is pointless to discuss this in the forum especially when several of you have a vested financial interest in being an apologist for millenicom and none of you understand contract law.
Contract law? LoL...stop being silly!
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I made an investment based on their promised terms, and so far they have not violated the promised terms. As long as I am not throttled or shutdown I will keep using the service. As I said they are responsible for actual damages and so far there have not been any. If the service changes from what was promised I will take appropriate action.
Your initial investment covered one month of service. After that either party can change the terms. You have the option to send your modem back and they have the option not to provide you service. There are no damages as there is no contract. Appropriate action would be to comply with the "current" terms they set.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23068981 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:26:17 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23068887 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23068887 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:08:52 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23068390 said by tim_k:

said by VRod105:

Millenicom was reselling a service and promising service levels they could not deliver, contract or no contract. If they entice users to sign up with the promise of unlimited use and then change the terms they are exposed and responsible for the actual damages anyone may incur due to the change in their terms of service.

It does not matter that the terms were enforced by someone upstream from them. They were selling a product they didn't own or control, therefore they are responsible.
When they changed the terms no action was taken for the current month, only emails were sent. Terms can change month to month since there are no contracts. If you don't like the changes, send your USB device back, it's that simple.
Perzactly.

They deliver the service promised each month for the payment each month. If you do not like the new terms, send back the modem and you are free.
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Millenicom was reselling a service and promising service levels they could not deliver, contract or no contract. If they entice users to sign up with the promise of unlimited use and then change the terms they are exposed and responsible for the actual damages anyone may incur due to the change in their terms of service.

It does not matter that the terms were enforced by someone upstream from them. They were selling a product they didn't own or control, therefore they are responsible.
When they changed the terms no action was taken for the current month, only emails were sent. Terms can change month to month since there are no contracts. If you don't like the changes, send your USB device back, it's that simple.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23067801 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:36:35 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23065310 The words on the site were "this service is not for herioc usage,etc etc.. Vague I know.

With the Verizon 59.99 plan, they did update their site to state it was a 5gb cap.

since you're on a month to month plan, it was either go with the flow or cancel it.

For my usage, I probably do use about 5gb a month, so its good for me still......Alot better than dialup....

You can argue the points all day, but all boils down to the fact you're not on a contract.

They have come up with an "unlimited" option but its on the SPRINT network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23065310 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:02:46 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23065143
It does not matter that the terms were enforced by someone upstream from them. They were selling a product they didn't own or control, therefore they are responsible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23065143 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:37:07 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23064955
Sprint actually provides the actual service !]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23064955 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:01:21 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23064853 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23064853 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:45:56 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23057029 said by birdwatcher:

Consider yourself very very lucky! I have the um175 and they told me I cannot upgrade to the Unlimited through sprint because my area is basically nothing but verizon!
So for ten bucks more ,,, I certainly wouldnt complain!
I'll second that. I would jump on the unlimited plan in a heart beat if I could.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23057029 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:01:54 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23056999 So for ten bucks more ,,, I certainly wouldnt complain! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23056999 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:50:40 EDT Re: Stay away!I http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Stay-awayI-23056547 --
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The CDU-680 is on Sprint network. There is no cap, no contract and no taxes.

Those are your choices. It is not a scam by any means.
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