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kudos:12 | Karl? Karl,
What is your opinion on this? You are usually very pragmatic and a little pessimistic about whether the FCC will really enact anything to protect consumers. Do you think this will actually have a backbone behind it, or is it just political posturing in the guise of consumer interests? |
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1 edit | Repub FCC commissioners have not commented yet said by Matt3:Do you think this will actually have a backbone behind it, or is it just political posturing in the guise of consumer interests?
I find it interesting that the 2 Dem FCC commissioners gave a big back slap to Genachowski in their statements. But the 2 Repub commissioners haven't commented yet. It seems to indicate they don't agree. We will find out later if they actually make something public.
But as shown in this news story, the FCC will get plenty of opposition from industry and from some in Congress. I'd bet that the wireless companies will lobby hardest against this.
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kudos:12 | Tk, you're telling me you're surprised that Dems and Repubs don't agree and the "new guy" won't take an official stance on anything either way yet?  |
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said by Linklist:I find it interesting that the 2 Dem FCC commissioners gave a big back slap to Genachowski in their statements. But the 2 Repub commissioners haven't commented yet. It seems to indicate they don't agree. I'm shocked I tell you, absolutely SHOCKED!  |
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Re: Karl? Karl,
What is your opinion on this? You are usually very pragmatic and a little pessimistic about whether the FCC will really enact anything to protect consumers. Do you think this will actually have a backbone behind it, or is it just political posturing in the guise of consumer interests? I'd have to wait for the actual rules to fully chime in. I will say AT&T and Verizon are still very much in the driver's seat when it comes to both parties of this government, and anybody really expecting tough, pro-consumer rules will be disappointed. I'd expect fairly weak guidelines that do give the FCC a little more legal power for blatant instances of ISP shenanigans (cutting off a competing VoIP carrier), but I think the real push, driven by lobbyists, will be about pre-empting tougher Congressional laws while using "transparency" to help push the idea of metered billing on consumers. |
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| let put on an addendum karl; any pro consumer aspects put forth by the FCC will end up being litigated far past this administrations shelf-life in hopes of a new more "business friendly" administration.
What he should do is outsource this policy framework to network engineers rather than attorneys!
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kudos:2 | said by S_engineer:What he should do is outsource this policy framework to network engineers rather than attorneys! That would only serve to make the lawyers' jobs extremely easy after any rule enactment. Let the engineers do what they do best....engineer. They very well should have a voice in the matter, but they shouldn't be responsible for drafting policy. |
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Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
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kudos:12 | said by openbox9:said by S_engineer:What he should do is outsource this policy framework to network engineers rather than attorneys! That would only serve to make the lawyers' jobs extremely easy after any rule enactment. Let the engineers do what they do best....engineer. They very well should have a voice in the matter, but they shouldn't be responsible for drafting policy. How about we compromise? Let the engineers write the rules, but let the lawyers add their legalese? |
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kudos:2 | That's kind of what I wrote. The engineers get a technical voice, but the lawyers make the rules legally defensible. |
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| Originally, the FCC was a mish mash of great thinkers, great engineers, lawyers, Doctors and just SMART, ACCOMPLISHED PEOPLE. Now it's solely lobbyists and lawyers stopping by on their way between think tank or K-Street employment. |
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kudos:2 | I know the history, and I'm not disputing it. I support a good "mish mash" of thinkers, engineers, lawyers, PhD types, and "smart, accomplished people". As I'm sure you're well cognizant of, we most likely won't see that again as long as politics reign and money talks. |
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| You are correct sir! Other reforms need to happen first. |
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kudos:1 | said by Karl Bode:You are correct sir! Other reforms need to happen first. mandatory chlorine in the gene pool?
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Re: Repub FCC commissioners have not commented yet said by Linklist:I find it interesting that the 2 Dem FCC commissioners gave a big back slap to Genachowski in their statements. But the 2 Repub commissioners haven't commented yet. It seems to indicate they don't agree. YOU LIE!!! |
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kudos:5 | said by viperlmw:said by Linklist:I find it interesting that the 2 Dem FCC commissioners gave a big back slap to Genachowski in their statements. But the 2 Repub commissioners haven't commented yet. It seems to indicate they don't agree. YOU LIE!!! I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you find something inaccurate with what I said? Care to elaborate?
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Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
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kudos:12 | said by Linklist:said by viperlmw:said by Linklist:I find it interesting that the 2 Dem FCC commissioners gave a big back slap to Genachowski in their statements. But the 2 Repub commissioners haven't commented yet. It seems to indicate they don't agree. YOU LIE!!! I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you find something inaccurate with what I said? Care to elaborate? I think he's referring to Joe Wilson.  |
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said by Linklist:said by viperlmw:said by Linklist:I find it interesting that the 2 Dem FCC commissioners gave a big back slap to Genachowski in their statements. But the 2 Repub commissioners haven't commented yet. It seems to indicate they don't agree. YOU LIE!!! I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you find something inaccurate with what I said? Care to elaborate? I'm hoping it was a joke based on the Joe Wilson rudeness.
As Julius Genachowski was speaking today, I was smirking to myself how funny it would be if Richard Bennett, George Ou, Brett Glass, or someone of that ilk were to suddenly blurt out, "You Lie!" (None of them were actually in the room, and I kinda doubt two of those three guys would have been so rude as to really do that, but that's still something that kinda crossed my mind.)
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Re: Karl? said by Matt3:said by openbox9:said by S_engineer:What he should do is outsource this policy framework to network engineers rather than attorneys! That would only serve to make the lawyers' jobs extremely easy after any rule enactment. Let the engineers do what they do best....engineer. They very well should have a voice in the matter, but they shouldn't be responsible for drafting policy. How about we compromise? Let the engineers write the rules, but let the lawyers add their legalese? Bingo! This is the way to go! |
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said by openbox9:That's kind of what I wrote. The engineers get a technical voice, but the lawyers make the rules legally defensible. Not the way I read it here... I got more of a "everything's fine, please move along.... Nothing to see" vibe from what you said... |
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kudos:2 | I left out the part about ensuring the lawyers make rules defensible, but I stated that the engineers should definitely have a voice. How did you discern "everything is fine here, nothing to see"? said by openbox9:They very well should have a voice in the matter, but they shouldn't be responsible for drafting policy. |
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