taly88
@bezeqint.net | www.WelCmall.com - Is it Trust or scam?
Hello,
Im look for buy som apple iphone orginal and new, and MacBookAir.
I'm find this site, what are you thinking?
»www.welcmall.com
Thanks alot!! |
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MGD
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join:2002-07-31
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| You cannot trust a website that was registered a little over two months ago, no history. Also, Apple products sold from China are guaranteed to be fake.
Domain Name.......... welcmall.com
Creation Date........ 2009-07-22 04:55:55
Registration Date.... 2009-07-22 04:55:55
Expiry Date.......... 2010-07-22 04:55:55
Organisation Name.... Ke Xiaohong
Organisation Address. Chengxiang
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Putian
Organisation Address. 351100
Organisation Address. FJ
Organisation Address. CN
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Admin Name........... KeXiaohong
Admin Address........ Chengxiang
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Putian
Admin Address........ 351100
Admin Address........ FJ
Admin Address........ CN
Admin Email.......... 086595@163.com
Admin Phone.......... +86.1367523295-0
Admin Fax............ +86.1367523295
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Tech Name............ youzhao yang
Tech Address......... xia men
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Xiamen
Tech Address......... 361012
Tech Address......... FJ
Tech Address......... CN
Tech Email........... 1688@idc2008.com
Tech Phone........... +86.5925583516
Tech Fax............. +86.5925583510
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Bill Name............ youzhao yang
Bill Address......... xia men
Bill Address.........
Bill Address......... Xiamen
Bill Address......... 361012
Bill Address......... FJ
Bill Address......... CN
Bill Email........... 1688@idc2008.com
Bill Phone........... +86.5925583516
Bill Fax............. +86.5925583510
Name Server.......... ns2.lunariffic.com
Name Server.......... ns1.lunariffic.com
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taly88
@google.com | reply to taly88
Thank you man!
Maybe are you know about website for apple prouducts and with low price?
I fine only the apple store but i want somthing with low price from this.
Thanks |
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nwrickert
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| Maybe are you know about website for apple prouducts and with low price? As far as I know, Apple controls its market. I wouldn't count on being able to find a legitimate low priced store.
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K Patterson
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join:2006-03-12
Columbus, OH | reply to taly88
You won't find it. The retail markup for a very large dealer is less than 10%. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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said by taly88 :
Maybe are you know about website for apple prouducts and with low price?
I fine only the apple store but i want somthing with low price from this.
That is 100% a dream. The fact is that if you want an Apple product and you want it to work plus be covered for repairs/replacement when it doesn't work then your choices are either the Apple Store or either a Apple Authorized Reseller at regular price (unless you catch a rare sale at the store) or it is PC time. 
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jabajaw
@rr.com | reply to taly88
but i dont get it how can it be scam if they accept paypal??   |
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SnowyOne
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Plan B=Western Union |
said by jabajaw :but i dont get it how can it be scam if they accept paypal?? How do you know they accept PayPal?
Don't believe everything you see on the net, some of it is not true. |
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Doctor Olds
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said by jabajaw :but i dont get it how can it be scam if they accept paypal?? You are kidding, right?  Just because a certain form of payment is shown to be accepted does not make something legitimate. Plus as seen by SnowyOne  clearly posted the web site does not really accept PayPal and it is to trick you out of your money which it still seems to be doing. Just forget thinking you are going to find a super deal and either save up for buying through Apple or look for used Apple products as that will save you a little money that way.
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MGD
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join:2002-07-31
Fort Lauderdale, FL
2 edits | reply to SnowyOne
LOL ! SnowyOne ..... great minds .... that's where I was too !
The "we accept PayPal" is the scammer's Snake Oil salesman standing out front trying to lure you to come on in !!.
I just bought an Apple MacBook Pro for $599. An impossible purchase from any legit vendor, let alone one in China.
And as SnowyOne already knew, when it comes time to pay, guess what, PayPal is not available !!!
However, there is an additional discount for Western Union and Wire Transfer, the only two options left. Coincidentally, both are irrevocable and untraceable methods of Payment, and should never ever ever be used.
WelCmall.com 100% guaranteed FRAUD and SCAM
Server Data
Server Type: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS)
IP Address: 216.227.220.53
IP Location - California - La Habra - Lunar Pages
Response Code: 200
SSL Cert: chi.lunariffic.com expires in 285 days.
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MGD
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
1 edit | reply to SnowyOne
To further alert potential victims of the WelCmall.com SCAM, I went through the excercise of purchasing both via Western Union and Wire Transfer, in order to get the detailed info.
PAYMENT VIA WIRE TRANSFER:
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Beneficiary QingQi Chen
First Name: QingQi
Last Name: Chen
Beneficiary Address: putian,fujian,china
Bank Name: Bank of China
Swift Code: BKCHCNBJ73C
Bank Account: 6013 8264 0700 3139 322
Bank Address: Putian city, Fujian province, China
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PAYMENT VIA WESTERN UNION:
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Beneficiary Ting Hu
First Name: Ting
Last Name: Hu
Country: China
Address: Chengxiang district, Putian city, Fujian province, China 351100
Telephone: 86-139-1284-6773
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SCAM FRAUD = WelCmall.com = FRAUD SCAM
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MGD
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join:2002-07-31
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| reply to SnowyOne
Running the bank account number: Bank Account: 6013 8264 0700 3139 322 yields a fraud victim report from a few months ago:
Ref: »www.ecplaza.net/forum/forumpub.d···27&fid=2
Website: »oneup.en.ecplaza.net/
Remember these scammers will operate dozens and dozens of fraud websites simultaneously. Scamming victims around the globe via Western Union & Wire Transers using fake electronic websites, is now considered a national sport in China. There are thousands and thousands of these fraud websites.
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said by MGD :LOL ! SnowyOne ..... great minds .... that's where I was too ! yeah, right MGD
haha, I thought something smelled familiar LOL |
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jabajaw
@rr.com |  reply to taly88
wow thanks guys saved me a lot of time its nice to see despite of what the news show.that there are really people in the world looking out for each other ..so does any one know where i can find LCD TV's for a low price??? |
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sdoak
@telus.net
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Re: www.WelCmall.com - Is it Trust or scam?
www.welcmall.com said:
hello friend
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) said:
hello has my parcel been sent?
www.welcmall.com said:
they are in the shipping company
sorry that delaying
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) said:
oh so it has been sent?
www.welcmall.com said:
it should be sent out earlier
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) said:
do you have the tracking # for me then please?
www.welcmall.com said:
sorry the errand coma back soon waiting for me
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) said:
so when could i have the racking #?
tracking i mean
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
hello
www.welcmall.com says:
hello friend
how are you
are you there friend
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
hello just stepped out. im back now
www.welcmall.com says:
ok
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
is my parcel sent out?
www.welcmall.com says:
sorry friend there is the agree in our sels department and financial department
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ok send my money back to me please
www.welcmall.com says:
and you know the goods is in the shipping company n ow
we are in hard position
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
just send money back. i cant wait anymore
www.welcmall.com says:
sorry for that maybe you should pay the rest so that we can sort the problem out with the same data with apple company
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yea so you can rip me off right. i heard about you on the internet doing the same thing to other people. is that what you are doing to me?
www.welcmall.com says:
rip off ????
sorry ?? i could not understand fully
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yes on the internet someone had the same problem with you saying there was problems shipping the goods and they never came. you told him he was boring
yes you can understand. stealing my money
www.welcmall.com says:
please respect us or give us the proof
you know the trust is very important
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
type in your website on google and see what comes up in the forums
send me a real iphone then today
www.welcmall.com says:
did you confirm it when you see
om the forums
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
well all i know is you are doing the same thingother people have said you have done to them. its been a week and no legit company needs a week to sort this out
www.welcmall.com says:
we received the link that the customer put it on that but he never did business with us if you are clevr can read it carefylly then think it by yourself
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
well why am i having the same problem this is taking to long.
your website is only 2 months old. you need to do better business.
www.welcmall.com says:
the customer did not do business with us with sincere he said he need severa l goods and changed time for time
but he did not order any goods just fool us
then post us on it you can check it
when we find it out, the goods we have packaged in the shipping company and he paid nothing
you are the professional businessman, you can confirm it if each customer is all be trustful
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
you send my parcel today and ill gain a little trust cause right now im only losing trust eve4ryday
www.welcmall.com says:
the goods we have applied for so many days in the shipping company
just the paid amount data is not the same with we report to the apple company so we could not regulate the data you know
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
then send me a real iphone 3gs and its all paid then and get it bout today
www.welcmall.com says:
i do not know why you worry about the iphone we really packaged for so many days the time is arriving if the time is over the goods will be frozened by them we are also urgent
so if you pay the rest the shipping company can send it out today the hard situation now
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
you honestly think im givin you more money right now. forget it either send my money back or send me something worth 350.00
www.welcmall.com says:
if you think that we want to scam you we have no way but you can confirm and juege if we have the need to play joke with our reputation
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ok i dont want to argue i just would like you to either return money or send me something right away please
www.welcmall.com says:
if you do not have sincere to do business with us maybe the goods is frozend in the shipping company we also could not return the goods we suffered the much loss
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
in my country the customer is always right and thats how a company gets repeat business if you only argue with me you are not making me want to do more business with you
www.welcmall.com says:
we also want to establish long business relationship but it seems that you want to broke it, we lose trust with you
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
you are not satisfying me right now so how are you gonna fix it?
www.welcmall.com says:
you just saw the words and od not confirm it then doube us about everything can we still regard you as the old customer to develop ??
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
listen i dont care how you regard me right now i want my money back or something worth 350 dollars
www.welcmall.com says:
sorry the goods is in the shipping company just send it out or it is be frozend for us to choose
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
so what are you saying?
your saying you are ripping me off?
www.welcmall.com says:
you misunderstood
you pay the rest money we can send the goods out at once you and us can establish long business relationship second you and us lose much money as the goods in the shipping company we could not be allowed returned
we do not know why you like those kind of customer just without proof then just hurt us
how will you feel if you are in our position
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
no i dont think i did you are telling me to send more money so you can steal it. forget it you thief. you either send me my money back or something worth 350 dollars which i sent you you lying thief. you think you nare smart but you are a lowlife thief. you know you have no intention of sending me anything ever and you also know there are no mac laptops that are real for that price and you lied
you have lied right from the beginning. let me guess im boring to right
you are cheating me straight up cheating me
www.welcmall.com says:
if you still think that way i tink we have no need to do business a customer just doubt everything it is no need
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
thats right send my money back please
www.welcmall.com says:
thank you the goods will be frozened you and us suffer much loss
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im posting this with chinese lawyer and suing you. i guess we will see how fast you open a knew fraud website
you have no shipping company. you have nothing but lies
www.welcmall.com says:
if you think that way we have no way the goods be frozened soon thank you you are great let us lose the much loss
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
all you are is a liar you told me half down and you would ship items and you didnt now you are trying to get more money out of me and will not refund my money. you are a fraudulant webste. no ifs ands or buts
www.welcmall.com says:
we are angry now as the best we did for you but you just think by your way
if you read the forum clearly you find that the customer did not do business with us before
you are so fool
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
if you wish to continue ripping other people off go ahead but you best refund my money because ill make it hard for you to rip people off again because i will spend 100000.00 for lawyers just to see you prosecuted
www.welcmall.com says:
just one question if you could answer us
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i am not worried with others post right now you are taking my money from me
what is that?
www.welcmall.com says:
do you have proof to confirm that any customer we deceived before ??
could you give
remmember real proof
if it is not true and you said we fooled cusotmer i think we have no need to talk
thank you goodbye
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yes me. you are decieving me and you lied to me and told me i could pay half and within 24 hrs you would send the products out. its been a wek AND YOUR TRYING TO GET MORE MONEY FROM ME. SO THERE IS MY PROOF |
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sdoak123
@telus.net
| www.welcmall.com said:
if it is frozened we have no way if it has not been frozened we will get the goods back to return it for you
sorry ??
you say apple ?? we are not authorithed ??
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) said:
ok i would appreciate a refund thank you
www.welcmall.com said:
do not let us angry or we will do nothing for you
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) said:
i only tell you what apple tells me
if you refund my money i will post that you are a good company and can be trusted on the internet
www.welcmall.com said:
no need we are the real company in fact not the words to decide by your words
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) said:
well i guess we will see tomorrow if you are real if you refund my money
www.welcmall.com said:
see you
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
hello
www.welcmall.com says:
without confirming then you put us on the forum thank you friend
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i put the conversation that i all i put. do you think you aid something wrong in that converation?
www.welcmall.com says:
you are the customoer that deceived us most thank you
sdoak123@gmail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yea ok thats why you have my money right? i don have your money you have mine remember
all i ant i omehing for my money ha i wasd promised or my money back. nothing more very simple
can i please have omething sent to me for my money or my money back?
i can reverse the forum by saying good things if you straighten this out
i see you will not reply to me so you have verified you are 100 percent fraudulant
i will now contact my chinese lawyer and proceed with prosecution against you
my 350 dollars would of been cheaper for you to pay back to me |
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Merlincom
join:2009-10-16
| reply to taly88
I had exactly the same problems with WELCMALL. The Internet site also seems to be switched off. Instead, they have simply opened one new side. Indeed, the Desing and all other is exactly same. The only difference is which they expel now clothing and other.
It is already a cheek of these people.
For leute for checking: www.sefele.com
It would interest me sometimes why nothing is undertaken against these companies.
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