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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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reply to openbox9

Re: Does This Make Union Employees Happier?

Uh, no. The point of contractors is they are temporary, and cheaper. (Short term, anyway.)


Z80
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join:2009-08-31
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And likely more productive.


WhatNow
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Charlotte, NC

I have seen the older worker retire and the company finds they have to hire 2 people to get the same work done. Many companies do not realize how much institutional knowledge walks out the door until they are gone. Sometimes that older employee makes it look easy because they are working smart not hard.
I have also seen younger workers act like teenagers at home Do I have too.
The problem in the US is we do not make anything so all we are really doing in a service economy is taking the money out of one pocket and moving it to many pockets.
The landline part of the business is between a rock and a hard place. The telco has to make the service available but every household has the option not to buy the service so the telco cost is fixed. The state regulates what can be charged each month that was set when almost every home used the service. Now the same homes have the choice of landline, wireless and cable voip. I bet the state taxes every wire in every cable every year even if a customer is not using it for service.


openbox9

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Alexandria, VA
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reply to KrK
They're cheaper because the companies aren't on the hook to pay for benefits or pensions.



KrK
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reply to Z80
Everytime any issue comes over with the Word "Union" in it you always get this political backlash of people who repeat the same thing over and over. Union = bad, Union workers = lazy, overpaid, Union management = corrupt

etc etc yadda yadda yadda.

Different story, same response. That's because it's a false political ideology. I surely hope one day these people learn the sheer depth of their mistake.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini



KrK
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reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

They're cheaper because the companies aren't on the hook to pay for benefits or pensions.
And this is good because......?
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

Lesaonar

join:2000-07-25
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reply to KrK

said by KrK:

Everytime any issue comes over with the Word "Union" in it you always get this political backlash of people who repeat the same thing over and over. Union = bad, Union workers = lazy, overpaid, Union management = corrupt

etc etc yadda yadda yadda.

Different story, same response. That's because it's a false political ideology. I surely hope one day these people learn the sheer depth of their mistake.
And every time something like this comes up we get this as well. Unions had their place 50-100yrs ago, when workers had no rights. That time is long gone. Unions are antiquated and need to go the way of the dodo.

And before you flap your gums, my wife's a federal employee. I could probably write a novella on how corrupt the unions are, especially in regards to some of the asinine, and completely inane, agreements they've made that really have no place in a union agreement. I will make 1 point, and is something even my wife thinks is a waste of taxpayers dollars. Federal employee that's stupid enough to get addicted to drugs or alcohol. The government has to keep their job open AND pay for their rehab. Nothing right about that regardless of what spin you put on it.

openbox9

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Alexandria, VA
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reply to KrK
Because it saves money.



Z80
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reply to KrK
The unions don't exist to make workers poorer or motivate them to work harder. The whole point of the Union is to get workers more pay for less work.

On the other hand AT&T is free to "shop" elsewhere for labor like everyone else.



Z80
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reply to Lesaonar
Unions have their place now, but they must understand that labor is not a "my way or the highway" proposition. Globalization has forced the Unions as well as the employers to compete in the global marketplace. If the unions are not willing to compete, they will evaporate.



KrK
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reply to Z80
No. The point of a Union was to Unite to stop the abuses of Companies. By Collective bargaining, they have a stronger position. If it wasn't for Unions, this country would still have slaves.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini



KrK
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reply to openbox9
Short term, no doubt. Long term, it costs money.



Z80
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reply to KrK
Was, not is.


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