|reply to NOVA_Guy |
Re: Not news
said by NOVA_Guy:My employer picks up ZERO of the costs. I suppose you think that's fair-RIGHT? After all, you're getting YOURS, so tough shit about the ones that don't get.
At $200/month for health care, I would be paying more than I am now and absolutely receiving less coverage. My employer picks up about 70% of the tab for my health care coverage and I'm happy with that situation, thank you very much.
The rest of the argument about the government owning the electricity grid, etc. might make sense if private corporations hadn't spent billions of dollars developing these on their own. Do you propose that the government just confiscate these from them, or would you like to ram another useless $700+ billion spending package through Congress with single-party support, handing money to pet liberal political support groups? Where would the money come from for this anyway, since Obammer has already admitted that we're broke (you know, just a few days before he and his wife Mickey went jetting off to NYC for date night at taxpayer expense)?
|reply to karlmarx |
Re: Not news; Human nature + corruption
*This may be viewed as OT... but here's my $.02*
The fundamental problem with EITHER side of this so-called debate is this; human-nature. The innate "corruptness" of the human leads to "greed" and "tyranny." These are innate traits, shown through the HISTORY of time to be apparent in EVERY form of "society," and in raw nomadic tribes and general wanderers.
HISTORY again will back my statements that NEITHER pure govt, nor "corporations" can be trusted PERIOD... I would lean more on the side of a govt in control Vs a Corp, but our govt (in theory) CAN be controlled by votes, which are essentially "free." A corporation cannot be controlled except for monetarily (the customer + shareholders)... But as we all know, MOST people are sheep; too lazy and uninformed (or stupid) to actually pay attention to what's being served to them Vs being proactive and controlling their votes (since many don't/or improperly vote off things like emotion etc.) So with people being so stupid and devoid of knowledge b/c of social distractions such as TV/sports/gambling etc... the people elected (some falsely), aren't so stupid as we may think and know HUMAN-BEHAVIOR, as it's their job to know how people think.
So with these people at the helm, with a myriad of advisers and other professional advising groups; they play the game based off people's EMOTIONS and passions, which leave many confused and voting illogically and irrationally from which they make money. The govt AND corps prey upon the masses' income, like a giant fish ball in the sea being probed by predators.
What I'm getting at is PEOPLE are the problem in general; a corporation is nothing more than the modern equivalent to a king and his land, whom feud with the other neighboring "kings and vassals." This is ALL merely the feudal-system-matrix, but throw in things like "technology" and "medicine," suddenly we've some how left these age-old hierarchical structures of society? There ARE many living descendants from Pharaohs, kings, barbarians and other such human "elite" (self- prescribed), just WHERE do you think their money and social status went? Society is STILL structured with Elites at the top, and sub-groupings at many proceeding levels...
All this rambling seems off topic, but in-fact; when you LOOK at these squabbles between diff corps/govt groups etc... you're looking at the same old system, but with a polished and refined mask of technological advances. We are still in the same Kings and SERFS (most of us) system...
Just think logically about the way things are. They are this way b/c people ALLOW them to be so. If people got as upset about how their TAX dollars are going to building machines to simply destroy others and their land; as they do about the NYGiants losing to the Cowboys... society might just be a little better for the serfs/everyone else. Corporations and govt are doing simply what humans as a group-think collective do; trick, treat, hustleprey upon other humans for life essence, aka money/goods. Some are less malicious than others, but in general the reason we're still arguing about Telcos fighting Ad-Co.s is people aren't voting to change the system. It would have LONG been changed if people got together and pro-actively voted.
"2-party system?" HAHA are you kidding me; TWO very smart and clever "parties" know that it's far better to PRETEND to be against one another, trading blows and titles to appease the cheering sheep; while they shake hands in private and BOTH make off with OUR money. This has been going on since the dawn of man. People in power, SHARE it in ways many down below cannot see nor comprehend. STOP voting for either party, b/c just WHAT has either party accomplished in the name of the "little people?" NOTHING! Individuals are largely the cause for great innovation and increased quality of life; NOT your beloved "2-party" system. You keep voting in the same hustlers and Charlatans for decades - that's FACT. ONLY the RICH can hold higher office (in nearly every case) in this country, WHY? B/c that's the way corruption and control/influence of the law (corrupted) works for the RICH and not for US... Try voting for a diff "party," what do you have to lose, your "vote" so you claim; then SHOW US just what your past votes have been worth? SAME old BS hustle of OUR taxt dollars...
Call it socialism, Darwinism, corporatism... I call it FEUDALISM, aka modern human nature. Both sides are corrupt and cannot be trusted so long as there's MORE "money" to be made (always).
Agree or disagree; thanks for reading.