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Z80
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reply to Skippy25

Re: Skype can pony up money and build their own network

I don't give two squirts of piss about the racketeers at the RIAA/MPAA.

3-4 choices isn't enough for you? Then gather up some investors and build this magic wireless dumb-pipe multimegabit network with infinite capacity. Everyone here thinks it is so easy and cheap to run a wireless network and can't seem to comprehend the distinct difference in capacity between wireline and wireless networks. They endlessly expect infinite capacity, high speed and unrestricted use for $50/mo. Sorry, that isn't the real world. There is not the capacity, nor the money to build it, especially if those apps are the ones that wipe out a good chunk of telco revenues.

In the meantime, you have 2 choices with AT&T, take it or leave it. Every other choice belongs to AT&T.


Bobbox1980

@cox.net

Re: We the PEOPLE own the spectrum

You forgot one very important thing:
The PEOPLE own the wireless spectrum, NOT the companies who license the spectrum.

The PEOPLE get to dictate the terms on which the wireless operators are allowed to use the spectrum.

Ideally all of the FCC licensed spectrum would be used as WiFi, then we would have a hell of a lot more bandwidth available.

Wireless should be a dumb pipe just like wired internet. Yes burstable and minimum bandwidth would be lower than wired in the present situation but there would surely be enough bandwidth to use Skype or another VoIP app to make calls.

The current FCC licensed spectrum regime is government licensed duopoly, triopoly, and quadoply. If a dozen or so record companies can get found guilty and fined for price fixing the costs of CDs, how difficult is it really for 4 companies to collude together on things like text messaging?

Don't be an apologist for the telcos. Remember, ARPU x customers = revenue. All a telco cares about is increasing revenue and profit.


Z80
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The "PEOPLE" don't get to dictate terms. The FCC does and did.

The "PEOPLE"'s only choice is to read the AUP and agree to it, or say no and take their business elsewhere.

Stop expecting the telcos to crap wireless network capacity. Remember ARPU is negatively impacted by competing services like Skype. The more Skypes there are, the lower the ARPU. The more customers you have, the more capacity you need...you can't make up for ARPU by adding customers. In order to recover lost voice revenues the telcos would be forced to raise data rates, or cap to limit the 'benefit' of the Skypes and you all would be back whining like schoolgirls again.


bicker

join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA

reply to Bobbox1980

said by Bobbox1980 :

You forgot one very important thing:
The PEOPLE own the wireless spectrum, NOT the companies who license the spectrum.
Z80 already pointed out the failure of your logic here. Let me just expand on it a bit. The people want service providers to provide service. To get investors to be willing to invest their money building a service for the public, it is necessary to make the operation of that service more profitable than any other use of the money to be invested. That's why service providers don't just bend over and give consumers whatever they want. Service providers wouldn't exist unless the financial obligations to investors was paramount; customer satisfaction is important, yes, but as a tool to achieve profit. That's the balance. It isn't one sided, just focused on the customer's wants. It is a two-way street: The consumer gets some, and the investor gets some. And remember that the investor always has somewhere else to invest their money, and so that balance between what consumers want and what investors want must always result in the investor getting a better deal than someone else is offering the investor, just like it must result in the consumer getting a better deal that someone else is offering the consumer.

If someone else is offering you a better deal, then take it.

said by Bobbox1980 :

Don't be an apologist for the telcos.
Don't be a naive apologist for consumerists.

said by Bobbox1980 :

All a telco cares about is increasing revenue and profit.
All consumers care about is their own selfish desires. Everyone plays their own role in the system.

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