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r81984
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Re: What Problem?

Once you buy equipment you can do anything you want with it that does not break any laws.

Jailbreaking your phone does not break any laws, thus it is legal to do it. If you do jailbreak you phone apple is in its right to void your warranty.
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Ual

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said by r81984:

Once you buy equipment you can do anything you want with it that does not break any laws.

Jailbreaking your phone does not break any laws, thus it is legal to do it. If you do jailbreak you phone apple is in its right to void your warranty.
Actually jailbreaking your own phone that you bought and own is against the law under DMCA. Not like it matters though because you tell 95% of people that changing something about something they own is illegal under some law they've never read and they will say "Yeah, sure..." and do it anyway. The majority rebelling against an unjust law has led to such laws being overturned many times in history so hopefully DMCA will end the same way, because it really is unfair that you can't modify something legally that you've paid for already.


nixen
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said by Ual :

Actually jailbreaking your own phone that you bought and own is against the law under DMCA. Not like it matters though because you tell 95% of people that changing something about something they own is illegal under some law they've never read and they will say "Yeah, sure..." and do it anyway. The majority rebelling against an unjust law has led to such laws being overturned many times in history so hopefully DMCA will end the same way, because it really is unfair that you can't modify something legally that you've paid for already.
Unfortunately, these days, many things are less sold than they are "licensed". Not only does software comes with EULAs, but so does much hardware. While you may have paid for your software or device in a single, up-front payment, the ever increasing use of EULAs, and the creeping scope of those EULAs, have created a situation where you don't exactly fully own what you think you've bought. Basically, when you agree to the EULA, you often give away certain rights (at least till someone files a class-action suit). So, *always* read the EULA.
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DavisPhotog
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said by nixen:

said by Ual :

Actually jailbreaking your own phone that you bought and own is against the law under DMCA. Not like it matters though because you tell 95% of people that changing something about something they own is illegal under some law they've never read and they will say "Yeah, sure..." and do it anyway. The majority rebelling against an unjust law has led to such laws being overturned many times in history so hopefully DMCA will end the same way, because it really is unfair that you can't modify something legally that you've paid for already.
Unfortunately, these days, many things are less sold than they are "licensed". Not only does software comes with EULAs, but so does much hardware. While you may have paid for your software or device in a single, up-front payment, the ever increasing use of EULAs, and the creeping scope of those EULAs, have created a situation where you don't exactly fully own what you think you've bought. Basically, when you agree to the EULA, you often give away certain rights (at least till someone files a class-action suit). So, *always* read the EULA.
Actually, with something like the iPhone, I don't think there's anything preventing you from modifying the phone or the hardware, within FCC regulations at least; meaning, you can't boost voltage to your antennas to increase your signal range past legal limits. Now, the software contained on the iPhone is a whole separate deal. It is what is being licensed for your used. The firmware of the phone is probably not allowed to be modified under the EULA, so removing it would be against the terms of use, hence making jailbreaking the slippery slope it currently is.
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r81984
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reply to Ual
Nope. We are talking about a cell phone that you own.
As long as what you do does not violate a law, copyrights, or used it to circumvent DRM copyrighted material then you are not breaking the DMCA.
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said by DavisPhotog:

Now, the software contained on the iPhone is a whole separate deal. It is what is being licensed for your used. The firmware of the phone is probably not allowed to be modified under the EULA, so removing it would be against the terms of use, hence making jailbreaking the slippery slope it currently is.
This all hinges on what firmware and software is running on the iphone. If all the firmware and software(including OS) are open source then no laws are broken. If I buy a computer I can replace all the firmware and software with whatever i want provided on have a right to use the software and firmware. It all comes down to what will AT&T let on its network. If they will even allow you to connect it up to their network. Chances are they won't allow you to connect modified equipment.
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