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patcat88

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Re: What Problem?

said by pnh102:

said by Uncle Paul:

Isn't that against the TOS?
So what? If it is my hardware that I own I should be able to modify it as I see fit, especially if those modifications have no impact on AT&T. No TOS should be allowed to take that right from me.
No you can't, its been illegal for more than a decade (anti-circumvention). »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA


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The DMCA applies to copyright violations. If you jail break your iphone to give you more features and do not use stolen software then you are not in violation of the DMCA.
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That's a good article, it points out some things I didn't know. Making a temporary copy of a hard drive for computer repair is exempt from copyright laws. Circumventing DRM that is obsolete or unavailable on the marketplace is also exempt. Circumventing DRM that causes a security risk is exempt.


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If you jail break your iphone to give you more features and do not use stolen software then you are not in violation of the DMCA.
It doesn't work that way. There is no "fair use" with DMCA DRM circumvention. A modchip to run homebrew, that can also run copied games, even if only used legally for homebrew, is illegal.


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said by patcat88:

said by r81984:

If you jail break your iphone to give you more features and do not use stolen software then you are not in violation of the DMCA.
It doesn't work that way. There is no "fair use" with DMCA DRM circumvention. A modchip to run homebrew, that can also run copied games, even if only used legally for homebrew, is illegal.
Intent and what you do is everything when it comes to law.

If we all went by your reasoning then all guns would be illegal since a gun can be used to commit murder.
Also all computer hardware would be illegal since any computer can be used to circumvent DRM.

To interpret a law like you want to would mean ignoring how we have interpreted laws for our entire history.
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patcat88

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said by r81984:

Intent and what you do is everything when it comes to law.

If we all went by your reasoning then all guns would be illegal since a gun can be used to commit murder.
Also all computer hardware would be illegal since any computer can be used to circumvent DRM.

To interpret a law like you want to would mean ignoring how we have interpreted laws for our entire history.
Try reading the law your talking about

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-circumvention


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According to the link you provide jailbreaking the Iphone does not fit into that law because jailbreaking has valid legitimate uses. After you jailbreak your iphone you will need additional software to circumvent any DRM.
There is nothing illegal with jailbreaking your iphone.
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You might also want to read the EULA you agreed to when you set up your iPhone and Apple's official statement.

»images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/iphone.pdf
»www.copyright.gov/1201/2008/resp···c-31.pdf



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Breakig the EULA or TOS for the iphone is not illegal.
All Apple can do about it void your warranty.
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said by r81984:

Breakig the EULA or TOS for the iphone is not illegal.
All Apple can do about it void your warranty.
ignorance is bliss


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said by patcat88:

said by r81984:

Breakig the EULA or TOS for the iphone is not illegal.
All Apple can do about it void your warranty.
ignorance is bliss
I agree, there are a lot of people that are ignorant of our laws when they are just one click away on the internet. People should not be so believing of companies that will lie to you to ensure they get your money.
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