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SLD
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San Francisco, CA

reply to pnh102

Re: Too bad

All I can say is "Watergate, baby"!


morbo
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helpful tip: to avoid getting drawn into this game, click on Ignore User for pnh102.



SLD
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Although I disagree, I kind of liked his creative-viewpoint



pnh102
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reply to morbo

said by morbo:

helpful tip: to avoid getting drawn into this game, click on Ignore User for pnh102.
Yup. Just give up!
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calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

reply to SLD

said by SLD:

Although I disagree, I kind of liked his creative-viewpoint

With which part do you disagree? That Fox wins the ratings race? That newspapers are suffering a slide in readership? pnh102 is clearly right on both of these points. What's left? Arguing about whether the "mainstream" is where most of the people are, or where some self-appointed media nabobs think it should be?

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SLD
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Uh, how about his most perposterous comment?:

"Because they get the most viewers, they become the ideological basis by which other news outlets are judged. If they have the majority of viewers, then by definition they are not some radical fringe media outlet."

LOL!



calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

OK, so you're arguing about what I said was left--whether the "mainstream" and "fringe" are decided by majority viewership or by self-appointed poo-bahs who adopt a supercilious attitude towards reporting they don't like....

The concept of Democracy must be hell for those who are so sure that they know better than the majority how things should be run....

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SLD
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Who said anything about a democracy? We're in a Constitutional Republic, remember?



AVD
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Onion, NJ

said by SLD:

Who said anything about a democracy? We're in a Constitutional Republic, remember?
Democratic Republic
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SLD
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»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_states

"A constitutional republic is a state where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.

In a constitutional republic, executive, legislative, and judicial powers are separated into distinct branches and the will of the majority of the population is tempered by protections for individual rights so that no individual or group has absolute power.

The fact that a constitution exists that limits the government's power makes the state constitutional. That the head(s) of state and other officials are chosen by election, rather than inheriting their positions, and that their decisions are subject to judicial review makes a state republican."



calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

reply to SLD
Well, obviously the concept of ANY decision based on the people's will, as opposed to determination by your favored elite, is so upsetting that you have to quibble over the terminology of how the people govern themselves.

Either way, it eventually ends up as what the people want, as opposed to what lockstep liberals and their media friends have been pushing for decades.

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SLD
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Actually, quite the opposite. Control of the gov't by the people was finally lost under the term of the Bush administration.
Now we only have the results of corporate influence on "our" representatives. Ever wonder why Congress leans towards the wishes of corporations, even though they cannot vote?



calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

Control of the government by the people was "lost" under the Bush administration? And that's why Bush's party got its pants beaten off by the other party in the next election?

I think you're missing something....

calvoiper
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SLD
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San Francisco, CA

You think so? Do you really believe that your representatives are giving you equal consideration vs. their corporate sponsors - the ones that can't even vote? If so, you're living in quite a dreamy bubble, my friend.


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