donoreo
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| Story from Slashdot on Peter Van Loan lying
An anonymous reader writes "As we discussed last month, the Canadian government has introduced Internet surveillance legislation that requires ISPs to disclose customer information without a warrant. Peter Van Loan, the Minister in charge, claims that a Vancouver kidnapping earlier this year shows the need for these powers. Michael Geist did some digging and revealed this as a lie — the Vancouver police acknowledge that the case did not involve an ISP request and the suspect is now in custody."
»yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/03/···e-Claims
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The irony of common sense, it is not that common
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MaynardKrebs
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| said by donoreo  :An anonymous reader writes "As we discussed last month, the Canadian government has introduced Internet surveillance legislation that requires ISPs to disclose customer information without a warrant. Peter Van Loan, the Minister in charge, claims that a Vancouver kidnapping earlier this year shows the need for these powers. Michael Geist did some digging and revealed this as a lie — the Vancouver police acknowledge that the case did not involve an ISP request and the suspect is now in custody." » yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/03/···e-Claims Absolutely no surprise there.
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The following was lifted from salon.com - it's a reader comment about politics in the US....switch the Republican references to 'Conservative' or 'Reformative' and you'll get the same picture in Canada.........
The Republicans have a huge advantage . . . .
They just say no. And they can say no with a passion. And they can keep that no very short, and throw in stuff about freedom and liberty and patriotism and all the bumper stickers they want. It works. Hatred of the government works. Republicans screw things up when they run the government, so hatred of the government works. But they're brilliant at shifting blame away from themselves and onto the institution of government itself. They're the wrecking crew, as Thomas Frank talks about. They're the party of no way.
Dems think they have to counter with complex explanations about their own policies and why they're better. They are better, but, unfortunately, people like to hear "no" more than detailed and complex discussions about policy. No is a lot easier. Your eyes don't roll over. And everyone's favorite punching bag right now is the government.
I mean, what could be a more brilliant political strategy than that? Say no to every possible improvement in the way government works in our lives, and then run on the premise that government doesn't work.
It is simply brilliant.
Cut taxes, deregulate, gut the ability of government to play ref, and then run against government for being impotent. Run against the Dems for having to raise taxes to offset the massive deficits Republicans create.
Brilliant.
Clinton, in relative terms, was a damn good president. Too centrist for me. But I'm starting to think America won't allow a progressive to actually BE progressive in office. The Establishment won't have it, and 30 years of Reaganism has almost killed the idea that government can and should actually work to improve the lives of all citizens.
It's easy being a Republican. It's easy being a conservative. All you have to do is hate government, dismantle as much of it as you can, make it as ineffective and irrelevant as you possible can, handcuff it as much as you possibly can, and then run on its impotence and inability to effect positive change.
All you have to do is say no. You don't have to know a damn thing about policy, or care about it. All you need to do is yell and lie and oversimplify and you're golden.
Progressives are up against it. Big time. |
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chronoss2009
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actually you'd be right excpet one hting.
One day they will go too far as they seem to be starting onthat path now.
Sooner or later all of these style screw you type govts fail or fall.
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy says this about lawyers:
"and when the revolution comes there the first to go"
WHOM is really running it all now? DO we have a non lawyer Michael Geist advocating for our rights and freedoms? NO?
DO we have politicians that aren't lawyers or Hollywood unionists like Iggy and Layton?
WHEN 50%+1 do not vote in Canada what is the precedent that they cannot hold office cause the majority of canadians feels they are all incompetent to hold office? |
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yeppers
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said by donoreo :Peter Van Loan, the Minister in charge, claims that a Vancouver kidnapping earlier this year shows the need for these powers. Michael Geist did some digging and revealed this as a lie — the Vancouver police acknowledge that the case did not involve an ISP request and the suspect is now in custody." » yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/03/···e-Claims This was posted on boingboing a couple of days ago:
Canadian gov't using lies to sell Internet wiretapping law
»www.boingboing.net/2009/10/02/ca···ing.html
This also ran in the Ottawa citizen, The Toronto Star, and of course Geist's site:
»www.ottawacitizen.com/news/curio···ory.html
»www.thestar.com/news/article/701824
»www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4423/159/
»www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4424/135/ |
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