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 dogmaXYZPremium join:2002-08-15 Boulder City, NV kudos:1 1 edit | reply to DrModem
Re: Dollar to be dropped as the oil currency by 2018 Excellent find. Serious stuff if true.
said by petrodollar warfare definition--> »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_warfare : The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that a hidden, driving force of United States foreign policy over recent decades has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency wars is sometimes used with the same meaning.
Supporters of this hypothesis believe that the value of the U.S. dollar is determined by the fact that many key commodities (particularly oil and natural gas) are denominated in dollars. They believe that if the denomination changes to another currency, such as the euro, many countries would sell dollars and cause the banks to shift their reserves because they would no longer need dollars to buy oil and gas. This would weaken the dollar relative to the euro (see supply and demand). The core of the hypothesis is that U.S. administrations are greatly motivated by fear of the consequences of a weaker dollar, particularly higher oil prices. This motivation is seen as underlying and explaining many aspects of U.S. foreign policy, including the ongoing Iraq War.
Economists generally agree that higher oil prices pose a risk of inflation, recession, or both. Inflation would almost certainly rise if the dollar were to depreciate heavily.
At least one U.S. Representative, Republican Ron Paul of Texas, has made very strong statements advancing similar views, using the phrase dollar hegemony to describe U.S. policy and proposing related reforms
and said by dollar hegemony definition --> »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony : • All central banks have since been forced to hold more dollar reserves than they otherwise need to ward off sudden speculative attacks on their currencies in financial markets.
..."dollar hegemony" prevents the exporting nations from spending domestically the dollars they earn from the U.S. trade deficit and forces them to finance the U.S. capital account surplus, thus shipping real wealth to the U.S. in exchange for the privilege of financing U.S. debt to further develop the U.S. economy.
It should be noted that most of the above paragraph describes a controversial point of view. However, at the end of the 20th century it was for the most part undisputed that the US dollar is the most important reserve currency in the world.
Iraq's Saddam Hussein was waged war on, hunted down, and hung for attempting to sell oil in denominations other than US dollars.
said by U.S. Congressman Ron Paul--> »www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul303.html : Most importantly, the dollar/oil relationship has to be maintained to keep the dollar as a preeminent currency. Any attack on this relationship will be forcefully challenged as it already has been.
In November 2000 Saddam Hussein demanded Euros for his oil. His arrogance was a threat to the dollar; his lack of any military might was never a threat. At the first cabinet meeting with the new administration in 2001, as reported by Treasury Secretary Paul ONeill, the major topic was how we would get rid of Saddam Hussein though there was no evidence whatsoever he posed a threat to us. This deep concern for Saddam Hussein surprised and shocked ONeill.
It's too early for me consider what the economic ramifications are at this point. Inflation (but NOT hyper-inflation) or a very prolonged recession (20 years+) is a forgone conclusion. Still hard to tell. Right now we are still playing out of the 1990 Japanese lost generation economic playbook. If average U.S. income can get down another 25%, then as companies rehire, they will be more profitable. Some manageable inflation would be welcome, perhaps 12% to 15% like in the 1980's. Also manufacturing will return as onshore plants can be globally competitive. ...and this would be the "good news scenario".
If we continue to print money to deflate our way out, this is what you "youngin's" (12 - 35 years old) should expect for your soon-to-be miserable ass lives (BTW, you guys can thank the self-centered, materialistic, cowardly, and pathetic "Baby-Boomer" generation for creating this mess and sliding you the sausage with no Vaseline):
said by BusinessWeek--> »www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/c···4046.htm : There's an entire generation of people in their late 20s and early 30s who came of age during Japan's so-called lost decade [from about 1990 to 2003] , a stretch of economic stagnation that started to ease in 2003. Through that period, with Japanese companies in retrenchment mode, young people faced what came to be known as a "hiring ice age." Many settled for odd jobs or part-time work to make ends meet but hoped eventually to find their way into regular employment with the stars of corporate Japan. Instead, they're being passed over in favor of new graduatesa serious problem in a country that still values lifetime employment and frowns on midcareer job-hopping.
This group is called the "lost" or "suffering" generation. Some 3.3 million Japanese aged 25 to 34 work as temps or contract employees.
These millions of young people face a life that's vastly different from that of their parents. For Japan's postwar baby boomers, jobs provided certainty, spurring them to partner and procreate. Faced with insecurity, many of Japan's twenty- and thirtysomethings are doing neither.
Sorry for the long post, but if this event comes to pass, there will be even more economic pain, and perhaps for the very long haul...but still no Armageddon. | |  | said by dogma:Inflation (but NOT hyper-inflation) or a very prolonged recession (20 years+) is a forgone conclusion. If all of the foreign countries start selling their U.S. treasuries to hold money in other currencies, then the Fed would have to print the money to pay them. With tax revenues declining from the recession and trillion dollar budget deficits as far as the eye can see, hyperinflation would be the result. Americans would not be able to afford imports. | |  dogmaXYZPremium join:2002-08-15 Boulder City, NV kudos:1 | said by Spice300: If all of the foreign countries start selling their U.S. treasuries to hold money in other currencies, ... Americans would not be able to afford imports. Yes. Right. Exactly right.
Thus the chances of other countries selling off so much dollar based reserves would be a questionable ploy. America would not consume at the rate the rest of the world has become accustomed to, and therefore send any and all foreign economies into turmoil as well ['scuse the intended pun].
I think of it as "vendor financing". Or even better, owing ones soul to the "company store". Our creditors have no profit motive to pull the reserve currency rug out from underneath us. Yeah, that would cause all kinds of economic storms here, possibly including hyperinflation. But it would also mean our creditor overlords would NEVER be paid the interest they want.
Just like the company store, or vendor financing, ...or VISA and Mastercard for that matter, the idea is not to get paid off, but to keep the sucker on the hook forever as he tries to pay it all off. | |  | China and India are rising consumer nations while the U.S. is importing less. The current trend indicates the U.S. consumer is descending toward irrelevance because their debt based purchasing power has collapsed. Due to the alt-A and option ARM resets looming in 2011, the U.S. has little chance of recovery until spring 2013. The failure to meaningfully reform U.S. financial markets means we can expect more economic carnage rooted in the greed of Wall Street titans. The U.S. and Canadian economies are more vulnerable to additional oil price shocks than China, Europe and oil exporting countries. The loss of Mexican oil revenue due to their production peaking may result in a war on our southern border that would distract us. The world sees the writing on the wall and is trying to rid itself of U.S. baggage by dumping the petrodollar. | | |
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