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2 edits | Makes Sense Bell and Telus (CDMA) have better coverage in Canada than Rogers (GSM) so there are many people who cannot switch to Rogers so Rogers is probably not making enough money off the Iphone to stay profitable after paying Apple.
»www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.···a&net=rw
»www.bell.ca/support/PrsCSrvWls_C···vel.page
In the US GSM has better coverage than CDMA, so 99% of Verizon customers can just switch to ATT so ATT can still profit after paying Apple for exclusivity.
This should open the door for hacking the CDMA Iphones to work on verizon.
Bell and Telus are going to be building GSM networks, but I doubt they will release a GSM Iphone, it would have to be a CDMA Iphone.
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| said by r81984:This should open the door for hacking the CDMA Iphones to work on verizon. How is that? The iPhone will use HSPA which is 3G GSM. The iPhone's in Canada will not be using the CDMA network's of Bell or Telus.
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toro
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Scarborough, ON | As far as I understand, Bell and Telus are actually building their GSM network, that's how they will be able to support iPhone |
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MRCUR
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Columbia, PA | reply to r81984
Did you read what Karl wrote? Telus and Bell have been building a GSM network and it's all 21Mb HSPA - it will launch with the iPhone. |
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It's a UMTS network. Not a GSM network. |
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said by r81984:In the US GSM has better coverage than CDMA, so 99% of Verizon customers can just switch to ATT so ATT can still profit after paying Apple for exclusivity. Please show me your proof of that.
Coverage maps for Verizon versus ATT show otherwise, that CDMA has better coverage nationwide. |
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| said by fifty nine:said by r81984:In the US GSM has better coverage than CDMA, so 99% of Verizon customers can just switch to ATT so ATT can still profit after paying Apple for exclusivity. Please show me your proof of that. Coverage maps for Verizon versus ATT show otherwise, that CDMA has better coverage nationwide. CDMA + analog have better coverage than GSM.
GSM has better coverage thatn CDMA.
CDMA roaming is more than Verizon and GSM roaming is more than just ATT.
ATT + roaming means better coverage than CDMA.
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said by fifty nine:said by r81984:In the US GSM has better coverage than CDMA, so 99% of Verizon customers can just switch to ATT so ATT can still profit after paying Apple for exclusivity. Please show me your proof of that. He can't because it's not true. I do wish that he would stop trying to spread that falsehood.
Whether he wants to accept it or not, CDMA has more coverage in the US than does gsm. |
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London, ON | reply to tiger72
UMTS is based off of GSM |
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said by r81984:said by fifty nine:said by r81984:In the US GSM has better coverage than CDMA, so 99% of Verizon customers can just switch to ATT so ATT can still profit after paying Apple for exclusivity. Please show me your proof of that. Coverage maps for Verizon versus ATT show otherwise, that CDMA has better coverage nationwide. CDMA + analog have better coverage than GSM. GSM has better coverage thatn CDMA. CDMA roaming is more than Verizon and GSM roaming is more than just ATT. ATT + roaming means better coverage than CDMA. Analog was shut off a couple of years ago, and now it's all CDMA.
So CDMA does indeed have better coverage than GSM in the US. |
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said by yabos:UMTS is based off of GSM Still he has a point. Your little 2G GSM phone will NOT work on the 3G HSDPA Bell/Telus network.
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said by fifty nine:Analog was shut off a couple of years ago, and now it's all CDMA. So CDMA does indeed have better coverage than GSM in the US. Nope. GSM has better coverage.
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said by SteelerRaw :
Whether he wants to accept it or not, CDMA has more coverage in the US than does gsm.
Try driving across the US and you will quickly learn GSM has better coverage.
I will admit CDMA has better coverage when that becomes true.
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| said by r81984:said by SteelerRaw :
Whether he wants to accept it or not, CDMA has more coverage in the US than does gsm.
Try driving across the US and you will quickly learn GSM has better coverage. I will admit CDMA has better coverage when that becomes true. Then you should be admitting it now. CDMA has more coverage than gsm. Sorry. |
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said by r81984:said by SteelerRaw :
Whether he wants to accept it or not, CDMA has more coverage in the US than does gsm.
Try driving across the US and you will quickly learn GSM has better coverage. I will admit CDMA has better coverage when that becomes true. It is true. CDMA has much better coverage than GSM - and don't get everyone started on VZW's 3G coverage compared to AT&T's 3G coverage. AT&T is far behind compared to VZW's 3G footprint.
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Nope GSM has more coverage than CDMA.
Seriously take a drive across the US, you will find out real quick the lack of CDMA coverage.
GSM Coverage: »www.coveragemaps.com/pubs/GSM_Am···009A.pdf
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to r81984
Actually Bell and Telus have UMTS / HSPA (no GSM/EDGE) networks in place for 2010 Olympics, and have a national rollout planned.
»gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ca.shtml
Bell Mobility Inc. - Network Information
Network Information | Roaming Partners | Services
Operator Name: Bell Mobility Inc.
Network Name: Bell Mobility
Technology: 3G 850/1900
Network Status: Planned September 2009
Web Site:www.bell.ca
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Williamsport, PA | reply to r81984
said by r81984:Nope. GSM has better coverage. Please link to where where you got this information.
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en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | reply to toro
Close... Bell and Telus are build a UMTS/HSPA network, which will support the iPhone 3G/3GS. There will be no 2G/GSM/EDGE.
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