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adisor19

join:2004-10-11
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reply to patcat88

Re: iPhone and HSPA+

said by patcat88:

said by dlewis23:

The iPhone will come to T-Mobile in the USA before anyone else, because they are expanding their 3G network faster then anyone else.
We will see the CDMA iPhone before we see the AWS 1700 iPhone. AWS is used in exactly 1 country (USA) and with exactly 1 GSM provider (TM USA). CDMA is available everywhere except Europe and Australia (CDMA was shut down there), except about 1/2 the countries with CDMA are on 450mhz (ex-nordic analog bagphone band, zero chance of 450mhz iPhone), but besides that, it still leaves alot of countries and 100s of millions of users. China, Japan, South Korea, India, and South America have serious CDMA deployments. »www.cdg.org/worldwide/cdma_world···iber.asp
A CDMA iphone will never happen. Also, you're wrong about never seeing an iPhone with AWS. Both AT&T as well as Rogers, Bell and Tellus have invested HUGE sums of $$ into AWS spectrum so you can BET that Apple will include the 1700Mhz frequency in a future iteration of their iPhone.

Adi

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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said by adisor19:

A CDMA iphone will never happen. Also, you're wrong about never seeing an iPhone with AWS. Both AT&T as well as Rogers, Bell and Tellus have invested HUGE sums of $$ into AWS spectrum so you can BET that Apple will include the 1700Mhz frequency in a future iteration of their iPhone.

Adi
A 1700 handset will be a LTE handset, not a GSM/HSDPA handset with 1700. Not sure if LTE handsets will have CDMA/GSM fallback at this point. VZW is promising a forklift upgrade to LTE, unlike its 3G rollout.

ATT's AWS spectrum is fragmented »www.phonescoop.com/articles/arti···9&p=1495 , probably bought defensivly. Anyways Verizon has said only LTE is going on its AWS. ATT also said LTE only on AWS »www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=181827 . The chance of a HSDPA 1700 iPhone is Zero.


adisor19

join:2004-10-11

I respectfully disagree. The complexity of adding the 1700Mhz band to the iPhone is very little : additional antenna is needed and the chip set needs to be certified for the new frequency. That's about it.

Adi


patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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said by adisor19:

I respectfully disagree. The complexity of adding the 1700Mhz band to the iPhone is very little : additional antenna is needed and the chip set needs to be certified for the new frequency. That's about it.

Adi
The complexity is very little, but corporations don't think like humans. A proper engineer would release a 1700mhz handset, a CEO would never greenlight it without a business agreement being signed first, by the carrier who wants that 1700mhz phone.


SHABAZZ

join:2008-07-13
Seattle, WA

reply to patcat88
I don’t think you got the memo. LTE will be data only to start (many years). And it’s going to take some time for the carriers build a business plan that monetizes mobile VOIP. I don’t know one carrier that plans on cannibalizing their revenue for the sake of innovation.


fiberguy
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reply to adisor19
You guys really need to hang up the iPhone/CDMA argument once and for all.. the only and correct answer right now is "... NO ONE KNOWS"... anytime someone says "It's coming to CDMA" or "It will NEVER hit CDMA" has absolutely NO clue what they are talking about no matter what side of the hope coin they're on.. hasn't anyone learned that by now?

The ONLY thing for certain, right now, is that what ever side someone is on (be it they want it on CDMA or who say it will never hit CDMA) will be that either side will say "see.. I knew it all along"...

.. it's nothing more than a 50% guess right now. The one thing I will say, however, and it's been said many times before.. apple was hiring CDMA engineers as little as a year ago.. does that mean anything? No one knows... apple has been VERY good at keeping a tight wrap on things... so really.. don't say "never"... you CAN'T say "never" especially when the numbers speak different.. There are MILLIONS of people on CDMA networks in the United States.. that's potential revenue for apple.. If they stop seeing new sales, who knows if they open up to more technology.. besides, it's not like many people believe.. it's NOT hard to adapt a phone for different technology.. RIM has been doing it for years.. you guys make it out like it would cost bazillions or dollars to make a CDMA version of the phone...

The iPhone is still technically a new phone.. there is still a large market untapped for the phone...

The only thing I'd ever put my money on is that anyone here who thinks they know what the future holds for the iPhone... is prolly wrong!


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