BurntCricket
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Re: bug Bomb the roachs?
said by CUBS_FAN  :Boric acid works .. but it wont clean itself up. How are you going to conceal it if you have company over? You don't have it where company can see it unless they go snooping around, and it is put out in a small dusting, not piles.
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | reply to Locutus65
Re: bug Bomb the roachs?
We used to buy "Chinese chalk" when I lived in Mexico. It was the same product, but in a chalk stick form, wrapped like a crayon. |
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David
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A vote here for combat roach control bait. Stuff works fantastic for getting rid of the critters. |
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TheWickerMan
join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
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Another recommendation for the bait traps. I tried the bombs once, and didn't have much luck with it. Wrapped and packed everything up, loaded the cats into the car, set off the bombs, and stayed elsewhere until the next day.
No roaches to be found when I got back, but they returned a week later. All that hassle for nothing. Tried the bait traps next, and before long there were no more roaches. |
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Boricua65
join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico
| said by TheWickerMan :Another recommendation for the bait traps. I tried the bombs once, and didn't have much luck with it. Wrapped and packed everything up, loaded the cats into the car, set off the bombs, and stayed elsewhere until the next day. No roaches to be found when I got back, but they returned a week later. All that hassle for nothing. Tried the bait traps next, and before long there were no more roaches. The problem with bombs is what have been said about those little bast*rds. Even an A-bomb or H-bomb won't eradicate them. Somehow them thing become immune after a while, that's why it's not good to use insecticide.
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dipweed23
join:2009-07-21
Ypsilanti, MI
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The bug bombs leave an oily residue on everything, and all ignition sources have to be eliminated before using them. They work, but will only kill the visible insects.
You should follow the advice of others here about using the boric acid properly. You can also entice them to crawl around in the stuff by placing baits around too.
If the infestation is too bad, and you can't get it under control, call in professionals. Some infestations are just so bad there is no other option but to tent the place up.
Professionals usually spray a residual, then use an irritating fogger to get the bugs active so they have to walk through the residual. They also use bait gels affter to keep the population down.
I'd recomend using professional products, rather than stuff common at home depot and the like. Just be careful with them and follow all directions carefully.
Delta dust for knock down
»www.epestsolutions.com/1075/Delt···ust.html
Bait gel
»www.epestsolutions.com/advionroa···%29.html
90day residual - highly potent
»www.epestsolutions.com/1166/Cy-K···ide.html
Demon WP 20 year residual
»www.epestsolutions.com/1105/Demo···ide.html
Don't bother ordering most of these in NY unless you are a licenced professional, even then they may not be legal.
If you are worried about products being toxic to family and pets, you aren't confident enough in yourself about following directions and applying it correctly. Typical professional application there is only about a 1% chance of pets or people comming into contact with the chemicals in concentrations large enough to cause harm. Do be careful tho, a buddy's resperator got knocked loose while treating an attic with delta dust and he ended up spending a few days in bed sick after a trip to the ER.
The links are only given as an example of the products (and prices) I would recomend, and not an endorcement of the company. I have never had a problem ordering through them, but YMMV.
Edit: Roaches are not immune to the products, their strength lies in numbers alone. For every one you see, expect 50-1000 hidden from view! They breed FAST and established populations are hell even for professionals to get rid of. |
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severach
join:2002-09-12
Jackson, MI
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They call me 'The Cleaner'
If you live in a place where it is too warm then roaches are an ever present pest because travel is too easy. Once you are tired of bombing and spraying you budget for a pest control service.
If you live where it gets cold, and 20*F should be cold enough, roaches can be eradicated because the snow prevents them from traveling and hiding outside and the dry air eliminates most condensing hidden water sources. Black Flag Roach Ender was the best off the shelf but that isn't available anymore. Fortunately the Insect Growth Regulator (IGR) chemical that does the dirty work is still available. Get some Zoecon Gentrol IGR. Archer has an IGR that is probably just as good but I haven't tried it since my spray can of Gentrol is still 70% full and my Black Flag Roach Ender cans are unused.
Nothing sold in stores works like Gentrol and IGR products are not available from or used by any pest control service. While Gentrol is available in several packages I only buy the aerosol which allows me to cover all the roach areas while avoiding food and traffic areas so I don't need to clean or quarantine. I also do not apply any poison since that is harmful to the cause for multiple reasons. The roaches avoid the poison, it makes the dead roach remains poisonous for pets, and it kills the roaches. You think you want them dead but you don't. Roaches that die make a mess and don't help spread. Live roaches steadily spread the IGR to every nest. Study up on roach habits and life cycle to understand. You don't get the immediate satisfaction of dead roach piles but they trickle away without making a mess and eventually disappear and don't come back.
Application is simple and a single can will last for many applications. You might do some free house calls for the neighbors. Spray all floor edges in the kitchen, bathroom, and any other water or food source. Concentrate on the floor if the floor sees no foot traffic or animal traffic can be blocked. Otherwise concentrate most of the spray on the vertical surface. This keeps pets, hands, feet, and food away from the IGR. Scrap food heavy areas like the stove and extremely wet areas such as dishwashers or under the sink need an extra dose.
The roaches will handle the rest.
The goal here is to cover the most valuable roach real estate with the least amount of spray and the least amount of coverage of your food and traffic areas. Application takes about 10 minutes and there is no cleanup or quarantine.
Under the sink: heavy coverage all over
Sink: wall and thin counter line behind the faucet
Behind the toilet: all over, try to get some between the toilet tank and the wall, spray the floor if pet traffic can be blocked
Along the foot recess under cabinets: Spray the wall and floor. Where feet are expected spray only the wall above where toes could touch.
Stove: Spray under, around, behind, and inside on all non food surfaces such as under the raised top and under the drawer. Do not spray the stovetop, oven, or hand controls.
Dishwasher: heavy coverage all over, pull out the dishwasher if possible.
Washer and Dryer: light coverage all over
Refrigerator: Clean and spray the condensate catch pans
The pantry and food cupboards shouldn't need spraying since there should be no open food or water sources here. Open food or water should be sealed, cleaned up, and disposed of properly. |
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thedragonmas
join:2007-12-28
Albany, GA
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Re: bug Bomb the roachs?
im poor, i admit it,in our old place we let the roaches run the place because of the cost of the insectisides, and we couldnt find boric acid at any of the local shops for some reason. after a few years i had had enough. we tryd the bug spray that suposadly lasts 6 months, it didnt work. we tryd a few brands. finally gave up. UNTIL i saw a gardening in georgia episode that showed how to use the gel. bought it, it works, maxforce i chose the slow kill formula as the infestation was so bad, after a few days there was a noticiable difference, after about two months no more bugs! sure it costs more. but it works wonders. |
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tomj1225
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Allentown, PA | reply to Anonymous_
Try doing the dishes and taking out the trash. |
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thedragonmas
join:2007-12-28
Albany, GA
| said by tomj1225 :Try doing the dishes and taking out the trash. try living in a slum where the landloard dont fix crap and you survive check to check.
simply gave a recomendation. |
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Anonymous_
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said by tomj1225 :Try doing the dishes and taking out the trash. thinking you did not read the whole thing
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clubs: | i tryed the baking soda seems to be very effective i see lots of dead roachs every were and I see less of them |
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help311124
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try not to judge 
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tcope
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Sandy, UT
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I lived in FL for 25 years.... I know roaches! Well, I should say Palmetto bugs... which are roaches with wings. Nasty!
There are two main kind of bug bombs. One type sprays a fine mist of chemical into the air, it settles and kills the bugs when they walk over it. Basically its the same as a chemical spray but the can send it into the air as a fine mist that carries throughout the area. The other kind that I greatly prefer is the smoke kind. I don't know exactly how this kills the bugs (inhaling or contact) but the smoke gets into _every_ little area of the room. You set them off, leave, and come back in a few hours (or seal that room) and you will see dead roaches all over if they were anywhere in that room. The difference is that the smoke stops working while the other one continues to work for a few days.
Personally, I recommend getting a smoke bomb for each room, using them one room after the other (during one day as not to allow the bugs to move from room to room) and then starting a chemical treatment plan.... such as placing Boric Acid in cracks and baseboards. Also spray the outside of the home and remove debris as this is where they are coming from.
Want cheap Boric Acid... look for 20 Mule Team Borax in the laundry section of your local stores. |
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BurntCricket
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| said by tcope :I lived in FL for 25 years.... I know roaches! Well, I should say Palmetto bugs... which are roaches with wings. Nasty! And many times the size of what the rest of us call roaches.
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tcope
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1 edit | said by BurntCricket :And many times the size of what the rest of us call roaches. Sometimes I thought they were small birds! 
Terrible memory... I was sleeping one night when I was 1/2 awakes by fluttering sounds. I was not awake enough to really think but my mind knew it was fluttering. Then something hit me in the cheek! A damn palmetto bug. Disturbed me so much that I had to spend the rest of the night in he guest room.
Wasp spray is about the only thing immediately effective against Palmetto bugs. It will kill them in about 10 seconds. |
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EliteData
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join:2003-07-06
Lindenhurst, NY
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not sure if it was mentioned, but roaches find dark warm places to reproduce.
typically a television set, since that is one device that is on alot and usually located in a dark area.
they will also find other places, computers, sound systems, vcr/dvd players, etc.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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-nt- sorry repost |
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pcdebb
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i've been in my new place a month and I'm having a time with these bastards. part of this is due to the nasty tenant I moved in behind.
There's a tree outside that they breed from, and it's literally outside my window and I think that's where mine are coming from. I sprayed a flying one (as some call "palmetto bug") and a wingless one tonite. two lastnite. I'm headed to walmart RIGHT NOW for boric acid.
I've seen big boys like this before, but i've never been used to living with them until now 
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