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Gatorsr1

@verizon.net

Network Bandwidth Requirements

My parents condo association is looking at putting in a wireless network. There are probably 120 units and they are mostly seasonal residents/renters. I would say the network would see a max of 50 simultaneous users in the busy season. Right now they are hesitant because the price package they got from the ISP will only guarantee 2Mbps down / 1Mbps up speeds. I am assuming this network will consist of a couple of access points and a router. How much bandwidth do you think would be needed for this network to share accross 50 users simultaneously? I am thinking 2Mbps is a little low but 4Mbps should do the job. We are talking about general web surfing and emails here not gaming.

switchman

join:1999-11-06
Grand Prairie, TX
Until kids/grand kids show up and start doing torrent downloads.


Gatorsr1

@verizon.net

I hear you on that. It is a seasonal ski area so I do not think that would be much of an issue. I think there are only about 4 or 5 year round residents living in the complex. During the winter I can see that 5pm-7pm time slot having 50 users checking emails and looking up weather info for the next day. Then during the Spring, Summer, and Fall there is hardly anyone there. Maybe 20 units being used at any one time.

switchman

join:1999-11-06
Grand Prairie, TX
·RoadRunner Cable


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I would ask one of the WISP guys, »Wireless Service Providers. They they have more experience in this type of application knowing how many users a particular pipe could support. There might even be a WISP in that area.

stevech0

join:2006-09-17
San Diego, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·VoicePulse

reply to Gatorsr1
said by Gatorsr1 :

My parents condo association is looking at putting in a wireless network. There are probably 120 units and they are mostly seasonal residents/renters. I would say the network would see a max of 50 simultaneous users in the busy season.
I'd say that they need a high end router that enforces a bandwidth fairness policy. Essential to stop hogging of the upstream.

Residential cable modem or DSL terms and conditions may prohibit doing this sharing. Esp. if not free. They need to determine the legal part first.

It'll take a very costly metro-ethernet connection (thousands $ per month), or a number of T1s or some cable modem business service that's legal for the purpose. Not simple.

Collectively, they should have tens of megabits/sec downstream. Again, fairness-managed.


Gatorsr1

@verizon.net

reply to Gatorsr1
Thanks for the info. The wireless network will actually be set up by the ISP using the ISP's equipment. Unfortunately I am not out there to go to their meetings...its not easy getting a 65 year old technically challenged father to ask the right questions LOL.

viper3431

join:2003-04-21
STL, MO

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said by stevech0 See Profile :

I'd say that they need a high end router that enforces a bandwidth fairness policy. Essential to stop hogging of the upstream.

Residential cable modem or DSL terms and conditions may prohibit doing this sharing. Esp. if not free. They need to determine the legal part first.

It'll take a very costly metro-ethernet connection (thousands $ per month), or a number of T1s or some cable modem business service that's legal for the purpose. Not simple.

Collectively, they should have tens of megabits/sec downstream. Again, fairness-managed.
Some business class services will allow the connection to be resold. This was not mentioned or queried as part of the question though.

I would say that "tens of megabits" on the DS is way overkill having managed a large network for several years. I think 4 megabits would easily handle general web surfing for 50 or so users. I currently have ~1100 machines on a 45 mbit connection.....average consumption is only about the 12-16 mbit mark depending on time of day. I agree though on having the ability to manage that traffic in case of online video watching etc.

switchman

join:1999-11-06
Grand Prairie, TX
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said by Gatorsr1 :

Unfortunately I am not out there to go to their meetings...
So have them conference you in by phone when they have a meeting.

Advantage14

join:2009-11-02
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If there is 120 units you typically would want more then 4 mbps. Most Condos with over 100 units should be at 20-40mbps. 4 mbps will run you into alot of trouble, it is best to run with High-Caps. Where is it located
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