 jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | Keep the Dream Alive Unfortunately, per-byte-billing, as will certainly be implemented by the industry, offers higher profits while stifling innovation. These are 2 important bonuses for the corporations. The necessary money and control may not be available to make this happen now, but they are getting there. |
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 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by jmn1207:Unfortunately, per-byte-billing, as will certainly be implemented by the industry, Then when they find how how much backlash they are going to get off of it will abandon it within 6 months. |
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2 edits | As has been mentioned numerous times before, if the consumer has no other options, our backlash won't mean a thing. If all of the major players make the move at the same time, what are we going to do about it? |
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said by jmn1207:Unfortunately, per-byte-billing, as will certainly be implemented by the industry, offers higher profits while stifling innovation. Not if enough customers do what I'd do: cancel their service. Yeah, I can make good use of broadband and the convenience of having the connection to my home--if I'm not "limited"... but I don't need it. I can get by just fine with the occasional trip to my local library or bookstore or coffee shop. |
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| I am against per-byte billing, capacity issues and data hogs can be dealt with using QoS like comcast uses, they don't need the bandwidth cap of 250gb but they are greedy bastards and want to move to per-byte billing
But the reality of the situation is that with the lack of competition in broadband, people will get angry, but there won't be any other viable options and a lot of users will never hit the cap and hence won't be affected so they won't complain.
I myself really have no choice, it's either cable or dsl and dsl doesn't provide enough bandwidth for my netflix HD streaming dsl to my apartment is limited to 1.5mb/s so if cablevision went to per-byte I'd have to live with it. |
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Don't forget in 20 years when the rest of the world will be so far ahead of us that we will be the 3rd world.
YUP GO FOR IT I SAY, lets make North America a bunch a retarded twits. |
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Re: Keep the Dream Alive Your (other) choice is to watch movies the "old-fashioned" way: via the disc that Netflix can mail to you. If you prefer the convenience of immediate streaming (and being held captive by your ISP), that's still only a choice, not a need. I'd rather tell my ISP to stick it where the sun don't shine if they were to go the metered billing route. I've already paid my monthly fare to ride their broadband "highway"... I'm not going to pay them again for something that's been bought and paid for. More usage doesn't "use up" the network (unlike utilities where you're paying for consumption of a generated resource, like electricity or natural gas), so I won't put up with their extortion. But, your money, your call. |
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Re: Don't forget said by chronoss2009:YUP GO FOR IT I SAY, lets make North America a bunch a retarded twits. that has already happened. |
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Alexandria, VA | reply to jmn1207
Re: Keep the Dream Alive said by jmn1207:As has been mentioned numerous times before, if the consumer has no other options, our backlash won't mean a thing. If all of the major players make the move at the same time, what are we going to do about it? Try to get the local DA with aspirations to higher office to do racketeering investigations?
The point that the article tries to make is that, people are going to tend to cut back on their usage in a metered environment. While this reduces network load, it will also make it so that income projections based on current usage levels will be pointless. It will also make forecastable revenues impossible (something that investors HATE). It will also incur significant cost structures in managing a fluid billing system and providing the resources necessary for customers to manage their usage in an informed fashion.
And, yes, if customers are not given the tools to regulate their own use, then it is a bit unjustified to expect people to be liable for overages.
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I cannot argue with your logic, it's a want not a need, but it's a want I wouldn't give up, per byte billing would change the way I use the internet and reduce my usage based on the caps but, Netflix was only one example of why I need broadband that's faster than dsl, and the most obvious. I wouldn't want to be on 1.5mb/s anymore after being used to 30/5 from cablevision. I should be ok for awhile cablevision has said they don't like the per-byte billing model.
but the reality is that the amount of people who would disconnect would not be enough to change the companies decision, the only reason time warner backed off was because of competition, if the entire industry moves at once, even in just a geographic area, we're stuck. |
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Franklin, TN | reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207:As has been mentioned numerous times before, if the consumer has no other options, our backlash won't mean a thing. If all of the major players make the move at the same time, what are we going to do about it? Do what I did, start your own ISP with no bill-per-byte. The only problem though is that people with that kind of knowledge don't want to drop out of a $200/hour jobs to do it; too much of a pay cut for them.
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Yeah. Well, the landscape could change again by the time anyone needs to make any decision as to stay or go (somewhere else) or drop service entirely. I'll keep on awaitin' for that "free" (ad-sponsored) white spaces broadband from... whomever (Google? doubtful)... just kiddin'... maybe. I'm on 30/5 now, but I could easily drop back to a tenth of that--there are plenty of other options for everything for which I use broadband (as well as simply altering my usage patterns), so it's only a convenience factor (except for that whole extortion thing). As you say, everyone makes their own priorities, and that's fine. |
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Camden, TN | reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207:As has been mentioned numerous times before, if the consumer has no other options, our backlash won't mean a thing. If all of the major players make the move at the same time, what are we going to do about it? It's simple if all I can do is basic web browsing then I don't need 20 Mbps. So I'll bump it down to 1 Mbps and my ISP can lose $600 a year. If just 1% does that then my ISP( Charter ) would lose $24 million a year. Which is a lot for them. So no I don't think they'll go bill by the byte. So yes even with "no other options" people can do things to show displeasure. |
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jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | said by BF69:said by jmn1207:As has been mentioned numerous times before, if the consumer has no other options, our backlash won't mean a thing. If all of the major players make the move at the same time, what are we going to do about it? It's simple if all I can do is basic web browsing then I don't need 20 Mbps. So I'll bump it down to 1 Mbps and my ISP can lose $600 a year. If just 1% does that then my ISP( Charter ) would lose $24 million a year. Which is a lot for them. So no I don't think they'll go bill by the byte. So yes even with "no other options" people can do things to show displeasure. And, just like they did with TV programming, the basic tier got a huge price increase and a bunch of channels were added to justify it, and now there is no longer an option for a simple, low-cost solution for cable TV viewing. What we will end up with is something like a 50/5 package for everyone, with a high starting base cost, ridiculous overage charges, and even higher priced per-byte tiers for anyone in the above average usage camp. There is no price competition, for the most part, and these conglomerates have focused their efforts on a quasi-contest over features.
It's going to be a tough fight for us, and we are going to need some honest, caring people at the top to help. Unfortunately, it's extremely difficult for honest, caring people to make it to the top. |
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True and this is when consumer protection should kick in. Will it? We'll see! |
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Re: Don't forget It's pretty much already there. Flip through some channels on the teli, or even go out to a store and listen to people. |
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