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amigo_boy

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said by Noah Vail:

said by amigo_boy:

Maybe you misinterpreted his opposition. He voted against so-called immunity until it was amended. Mark
If missing the February vote on the FISA bill
is how O'Bama defined his opposition to it,
it would explain his post-election actions
with regard to promises of earmark reform and open records.
BTW: Check out Senator (and former Presidential nominee) McCain's voting record. He has far more "NV" (not voting) than Obama for the same period. (188 votes versus 164).

Mark


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said by amigo_boy:

BTW: Check out Senator (and former Presidential nominee) McCain's voting record. He has far more "NV" (not voting) than Obama for the same period. (188 votes versus 164).Mark
No defense from me. They're paid to make choices. I don't find compulsive avoidance to be a strength.

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amigo_boy

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said by Noah Vail:

No defense from me. They're paid to make choices. I don't find compulsive avoidance to be a strength.
As an aside, I remember back in the mid '90s. McCain voted against the amendment (to the Omnibus Crime Bill) to ban so-called "assault weapons." And then he voted FOR the Omnibus Crime Bill (with the ban).

I could accept that it's the nature of politics that nothing will be perfect, and the overall Crime Bill outweighed individual objectionable parts.

But, McCain took it to a higher level. A pro-gun friend of mine wrote McCain complaining about his final vote on the CB. McCain responded "I'm pro-gun and I voted against the ban when it was proposed as an amendment."

My friend's anti-gun mother wrote McCain complaining about his vote against the AW ban. McCain responded, "I favor sensible gun controls, and if you look at my voting record I voted for the Crime Bill with the ban."

It's just the nature of politics. Appeal to the broadest group of people, and support bills for the greatest good for the greatest number.

It's easy to be a libertarian rabble-rouser about how this or that politician didn't "stand on principle." If all politicians did that we wouldn't have the Constitutional government we do today. The founding generation wouldn't have ditched the Articles of Confederation after 12 years. Who knows how we would have come out of WW I or II. Or, how it would work with California blockading Arizona.

That's the deception of libertarianism. It's easy to criticize everything without having to live under the alternative.

Mark

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