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Billie Jo

@comcast.net

unions and such

Those of you who are offering up your opinions should really be fully educated on the situation before you pass judgment on this particular union and their workers. When there is a time that any workers, union or not, are laid off it's terrible.
There are plenty of existing VZ techs that were trained to install FIOS... this only takes a week or two of training for them. When Verizon hires someone to be a Copper tech, the are put through 6 months of classroom training which is then followed up by an additional 4 -6 months of on the job training.
What you need to know is that a lot of these FIOS technicians were hired with in the past few years and were trained in FIOS installation only. Verizon didn't invest the time or money into training them in every area for this exact reason.... the considered them "disposable". This is not the fault of the union and does not make the technicians that have been with the company for 10 years or more "lazy".

tmncali

join:2003-02-18
Fontana, CA

6 months of classroom?
How long ago was this?

I hired on 5 years ago as a copper tech and only received 1 week pole climbing and ladder, 2 weeks computer net learn with limited practical app, and 2 week ride along.

Additional "bonus training available"
Man hole or Vault training is 2 days, Cable splice is 2 weeks, fault locate may be 2 weeks. DSL 2 days.

Lay offs anywhere suck.



elbm

join:2000-08-03
Reisterstown, MD

Yeah lay offs suck. I am a construction splicer and we got 2 weeks of pole climbing/ladder/platform/man hole training and the 3 weeks of splicing school and then it was on the job training. Never heard of 6 months up front-- but I have probably had a total of 6 months in the past 13 years here. (Mux, slc and dlc classes) However there are dramatic differences in the ojt learning curves for different outside jobs.

Fios/Copper install/repair-- a couple of weeks to be fully on your own.

Cable Maintenance Copper-- 1-2 years to be proficient.

SLC maintenance-- 1-2 years

Cable Maintenance-- fios a couple of weeks.

Construction fios-- a couple of months.

Construction copper-- 3-5 years to do all aspects.

Construction core fiber-- 3-5 years also


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