 Z801 point 77Premium
join:2009-08-31
Amerika
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Re: Unions You're not getting it. That isn't what happened here so sayith the union spokesperson.
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Hetrick said the FIOS technicians had plenty of work to do but were laid off because they had less seniority than other union members.
What may have happened elsewhere, in other companies, or even at Verizon in the past, is irrelevant to my point which is seniority should have zero to do with who gets hired or fired. It should be the merit of the individual and their value to the company as an individual.
Meanwhile you have a culture of shovel leaners, no one is ratting out anyone. |
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WhatNowPremium
join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC | If management does their job the the senior employee will not be an idiot. Sure in some cases the better employee loses a job but in a lot of cases it is the management that caused the problem in the first place but they keep their jobs.
I have never thought of the banks and Wall Street as being a bastion of union workers but it was the highest paid managers that brought the economy to its knees. Most of the crowd that made the decisions kept their jobs and got bonuses while the employees that answered the phones and did their jobs were sent packing. People were not kept by their ability but by what department or division they were in.
So your it is the unions fault is just wrong. |
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Z801 point 77Premium
join:2009-08-31
Amerika | Again, we aren't talking about Wall St. We are talking about these particular people who were laid off because they did not have proper seniority and that is what is wrong. No one should be laid off or kept because of seniority, union or non-union. |
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| Except half of your posts in this thread were anti-union rants, completely oblivious to reality or how unions actually work. You make ridiculous assumptions about the function of unions and what caused our economy to fall into a recession in the first place. It`s stupid and to be honest disrespectful, especially considering the reason you`re not working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week is because unions exist. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·AT&T DSL Service
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What he's really saying is there was plenty of work to do but Verizon decided to lay people off anyway, so the people with the least seniority got the shaft. Not that the people who stayed were lazy suck ups. Basically what he said is the problem was Verizon's decision to lay off people period.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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Z801 point 77Premium
join:2009-08-31
Amerika | reply to sonicmerlin
Except you read only what you choose to read. Stop defending the unions no matter what they do and get some objectivity. There is no excuse for using seniority to select which guys and gals get canned.
We all know all too well how unions actually work. Meanwhile you can skip the attempt at derailing the thread into another political pissing contest. We all know your anti-capitialist positions and they are irrelevant to this discussion of seniority playing a role in layoffs.
Enjoy ignore. |
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