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Karl Bode
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Re: This was in the comment section of WSJ piece

I would imagine that Mr. Hahn and his homeowner's alliance is just one of hundreds of groups who parrot whatever they're told to in exchange for new AT&T-funded events centers or donations. The co-opting of pseudo-legitimate organizations to parrot policy positions is a booming business.


El Quintron
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said by Karl Bode:

The co-opting of pseudo-legitimate organizations to parrot policy positions is a booming business.
Turning these groups into quasi-Astroturfers paid with soft-dollars?
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Karl Bode
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Absolutely. It's what companies like Amplify Public Affairs do for a living. You (a corporation) pays them, they in turn coordinate pseudo-grass roots campaign using everything from completely bogus consumer groups to co-opted pseudo-legitimate groups looking for money.

The result is this broad wash of artificial "consumer" support for a company policy that just wouldn't naturally exist.

AT&T and Verizon are masters of this stuff. So are Microsoft and Comcast, who use groups like the National Corn Grower's Association to also attack Google. For all their faults, I don't believe Google's gotten into co-opting legitimate groups for smear purposes yet, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.


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I don't think Google will need to co-opt interests, however they probably have enough legitimate (non-bribed/non-co-opted) support.

Not being a Google follower I don't really keep up with its activities (only what I read here) but I'm wondering how long it will take for Google to really lay the smack down and crush an entity to make a point.
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Gbcue
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Can Google even do smearing?

Their company motto is "Do no evil."

caco
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Yes. The sad thing is that the way the game is played that if you don't get all crazy and hire a ton of lobbyist, your competitors will and next thing you know, your legislated into going out of business. Says more about our congresss than anything else.
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ArrayList
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its sad that taking the higher road is what gets you killed.


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said by ArrayList:

its sad that taking the higher road is what gets you killed.
Exactly the crooks will get you in the end.

But if you just rolled over and crushed someone nobody liked anyways, just to show you meant business... it might be a different story.
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Well, if we simply removed money from the political system and forced politicians to use regulated governmental funds to campaign, a lot of this would go away and politicians would once more feel the yoke of the voters' will rather than corporations'.

Of course, that would require politicians to be honest and do what's best for the country and their constiutents. I'd expect that to happen about a month after cold fusion, peace in the Middle East and the discovery of the Fountain of Youth.
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said by Rogue Wolf:

Well, if we simply removed money from the political system and forced politicians to use regulated governmental funds to campaign, a lot of this would go away and politicians would once more feel the yoke of the voters' will rather than corporations'.

Of course, that would require politicians to be honest and do what's best for the country and their constiutents. I'd expect that to happen about a month after cold fusion, peace in the Middle East and the discovery of the Fountain of Youth.
you forgot the answer to life, the universe and everything.

Radioman991

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said by Gbcue:

Can Google even do smearing?

Their company motto is "Do no evil."
The Borg does PLENTY of evil. Been there. Lived it. Seen it.