Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
kudos:1 Reviews:
 ·CenturyLink
 ·Comcast
·Embarq Now Centu..
1 edit | We had a little theater it is time to go to the lobby.  It is time for the wireless carriers to get out their fat wallets and begin paying off lawmakers to write laws setting up the phone police to arrest and punish those violating the wireless carriers TOS agreement. High Ho High Ho it's off to jail we go.
Actually there are benifical uses for Google Voice that do not impact the Wireless Carriers. I picked a Google Voice Number in Clermont Florida, a local call from Orlando. Without Google Voice persons wishing to call my home from Orlando had to pay toll charges. Now they can place a local call to my home. |
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 djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
kudos:1
 ·VOIPo
 ·Verizon Wireless..
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·PHONE POWER
| "Toll charges" are exactly why I dumped POTS for VOIP.
I don't even USE the phone all that much in the first place. But everyone I call in the LA area was just outside my local calling area.
I first switched to TW VOIP, and I was very happy to not have to concern myself with usage charges even though I was paying about the same. Now I have PhonePower, and get great features AND significantly cheaper pricing.
AT&T should be very afraid. When one has a data connection, their other overpriced services can be replaced. It's already started - with a phone IM client, I hardly ever use texting anymore.
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jus10
join:2009-08-04
Sterling, VA Reviews:
·Comcast
| I don't really think that in the long term AT&T or Verizon have much to fear. They'll just jack up the data prices to cover the usage.
Their resistance is based on fear and frankly, rather dumb. Build the next gen networks so its all data. VoIP, SMS, email, all just packets. Then charge for X amount of data per month. VoIP costs packets and a percentage total of the data per month.
I have texting blocked on my iPhone completely. Paying X amount per message for something which can be included in an email is dumb. Bundle everything together as one data blob and be done with it. |
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 HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium
join:2000-09-20
Phone Room
kudos:2 | reply to Mr Matt
don't help them get the 'phone police' idea started, even though it has to some degree.
"Welcome to the Department of Telecommunications Enforcement Division.
If you know the extension you are trying to reach, you may dial it at anytime.
To report a...."
welcome to the 'pseudo-quasi non-partisan anti-defamatory network-neutrality movement'.
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FisamoPremium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC Reviews:
·VOIPo
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said by jus10:I don't really think that in the long term AT&T or Verizon have much to fear. They'll just jack up the data prices to cover the usage. Exactly right--they'll jack up the data price to cover the usage. The fear arises from having to build a new business model, being the first to the market with the new more expensive data plans with usage allowances that people will want (but probably won't want to pay for). However, that does raise two fears--one short term, the other long term.
In the short term, the 'innovator' company that adopts this bruise-ness model will take it in the shorts, until enough people come to the conclusion (whether right or wrong) that a commodity-priced bandwidth plan (at a sustainable price point) is best... In other words, a commodity-bandwidth style plan (e.g. all handset use is metered by data instead of minutes, whether voice, web browsing, messaging, etc) would probably have to be introduced as a loss leader (either priced lower than current PC card plans, with higher usage allowances, or both) to gain adoption, IMO.
Then, the long-term fear kicks in. The wireless companies will have to compete (or collude, such as in TXT message pricing?) based on bandwidth, caps, and service reliability, with no 'premium content' leverage.
It's reasonable to predict that we will go this route eventually, the big questions are when, and how much money will be spent to delay the inevitable? |
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 FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
·Comcast
·T-Mobile US
| reply to jus10
said by jus10:I don't really think that in the long term AT&T or Verizon have much to fear. They'll just jack up the data prices to cover the usage. Their resistance is based on fear and frankly, rather dumb. Build the next gen networks so its all data. VoIP, SMS, email, all just packets. Then charge for X amount of data per month. VoIP costs packets and a percentage total of the data per month. I have texting blocked on my iPhone completely. Paying X amount per message for something which can be included in an email is dumb. Bundle everything together as one data blob and be done with it. if it gets to the point where they don't have anything to fear, then they need broken up again to create more competition. thats the only thing AT&T is afraid of. their costs are not an issue. |
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