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| I can't help but be reminded... every month, that my electric bill, which is from the city owned utility, is the most expensive in the entire State of Florida. Government entities can subsidize broadband for as long as it takes to run private enterprise out of town because they can recover it with taxes. Once they are the monopoly, look out.
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 baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
·Comcast
| said by BillRoland:every month, that my electric bill, which is from the city owned utility, is the most expensive in the entire State of Florida. Government entities can subsidize broadband for as long as it takes to run private enterprise out of town because they can recover it with taxes. Once they are the monopoly, look out. Kudos |
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said by BillRoland:every month, that my electric bill, which is from the city owned utility, is the most expensive in the entire State of Florida. Government entities can subsidize broadband for as long as it takes to run private enterprise out of town because they can recover it with taxes. Once they are the monopoly, look out. Meanwhile our electric rates here are the least expensive in the state. Our electric company is a cooperative. |
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said by BillRoland:every month, that my electric bill, which is from the city owned utility, is the most expensive in the entire State of Florida. Government entities can subsidize broadband for as long as it takes to run private enterprise out of town because they can recover it with taxes. Once they are the monopoly, look out. And private companies, once they become a monopoly, do exactly the same thing.
At least with governments you have a chance, as slim as it might be, to vote them out.
Try to vote out the Comcastic monopoly.
I view extreme positions of monopolistic power by either a communications company or the government backed initiative as bad for the customers in the long run. The balance between the two is the optimal point or balance between multiple companies clearly limited by anti trust laws. Currently with CC and telco's monopolies it is clear to me that only the government could step in to restore some of the balance. Of course, astro turfing telco/CC supporters will cry foul, but that is what government is supposed to do which is protect the citizen's interest, not the corporations'. A corporation legal status as a persona is an aberration created to get all the benefits and NONE of the obligations and it should be abolished. |
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And our city owned/run electric & water (CWLP) is around the cheapest in the state, if NOT the nation.
They were going to get into muni cable, but it never materialized (unfortunately)...  |
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 SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to fifty nine
Meanwhile, our electric rates are some of the highest, because Texas decided to go free-market. Yay! We had costs of 26cents / Kw last year. |
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SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to WernerSchutz
The right-wingers on here should watch this movie to understand your statement:
»www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Corpor···d=222336
Actually, everyone should watch it. |
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said by SLD:Meanwhile, our electric rates are some of the highest, because Texas decided to go free-market. Yay! We had costs of 26cents / Kw last year. You need to dig a little deeper to see why that actually happened. You may realize that the finger of blame is pointed elsewhere. |
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to SLD
Especially if they can't sleep and want to be thrown in to a stupor.
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| said by Linklist:Especially if they can't sleep and want to be thrown in to a stupor. Versus when paying exorbitant bills generated by these monopolistic multinational companies when one becomes wide awake, too late, of course. Some truths are quite boring until they become an intractable problem. |
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SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to Methadras
Actually, it is fairly well documented, just like the California "energy crisis" that was manipulated by energy traders in collaboration with the energy provider.
It was a pretty big deal - Enron - remember? |
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 ReformCRTCSupport Your Independent ISP
join:2004-03-07
Canada | reply to SLD
Yikes! It's only 5.5 cents/kwh here. |
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | reply to SLD
Look like electricty in houston is less than 1/2 of that now.
If your electricty was natural gas based, naturgal prices probably had more to do with that price spike than deregulation.
I paid only about 10kwh in Tx last year, but we use more coal than natural gas here. |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | reply to baineschile
said by baineschile:said by BillRoland:every month, that my electric bill, which is from the city owned utility, is the most expensive in the entire State of Florida. Government entities can subsidize broadband for as long as it takes to run private enterprise out of town because they can recover it with taxes. Once they are the monopoly, look out. Kudos Our city-owned electric monopoly not only charges 1/3rd more than the national average, the billions we pay to the utility to maintain infrastructure get passed to the city coffers instead. (In addition to the 12% tax.)
Recently, they tried to establish a solar rooftop monopoly, so that ONLY the utility's union members could install the panels. Only through a broad coalition of interests did we defeat the "emergency" measure that would have allowed this and committed us to untold billions in rate increases and taxes.
The CEO just quit because he and the mayor were caught violating the water conservation law (after hiring ten "water cops" to enforce it!), while the aforementioned infrastructure has been creating sinkholes 10x a day all about the city. Oh, and of course, there were the lactation classes.
Private firms always have the potential to be evil, but they have an incentive to be efficient, and you can always buy their stock - if you believe them truly so evil, they'll be paying you dividends. |
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SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to cwh
I'm able to get 12 cents per kilowat for renewable this year, but that is more than double what other parts of the country pay. |
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Same thing happened in California when we became unregulated. Well, you saw that in the news a couple of years ago! Greed screwed us. We had electric bills that grew by 5x. It caused many people to leave, or charge those bills on their credit cards that they are now filing bankruptcy on... |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to BillRoland
And you, as citizens and consumers are the ones who could fix that.
So why is yours the highest? |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to SLD
The problem with the free market approach to electricity is that there isn't free market competition, so in essence a deregulation of rates is permission to pillage.
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | reply to SLD
said by SLD:I'm able to get 12 cents per kilowat for renewable this year, but that is more than double what other parts of the country pay. I think that rate is about normal for most of the country, but yes there are places where it is less expensive. |
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said by baineschile:said by BillRoland:every month, that my electric bill, which is from the city owned utility, is the most expensive in the entire State of Florida. Government entities can subsidize broadband for as long as it takes to run private enterprise out of town because they can recover it with taxes. Once they are the monopoly, look out. Kudos And MY LADWP bill is about HALF what I was paying when I lived in Santa Monica and had Southern California Edison for my electric company!
Just because YOUR govt. can't get it right is no reason to say that NO ONE'S can! |
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