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Re: I can't help but be reminded... said by BillRoland:every month, that my electric bill, which is from the city owned utility, is the most expensive in the entire State of Florida. Government entities can subsidize broadband for as long as it takes to run private enterprise out of town because they can recover it with taxes. Once they are the monopoly, look out. Meanwhile our electric rates here are the least expensive in the state. Our electric company is a cooperative. |
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| And our city owned/run electric & water (CWLP) is around the cheapest in the state, if NOT the nation.
They were going to get into muni cable, but it never materialized (unfortunately)...  |
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 SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to fifty nine
Meanwhile, our electric rates are some of the highest, because Texas decided to go free-market. Yay! We had costs of 26cents / Kw last year. |
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| said by SLD:Meanwhile, our electric rates are some of the highest, because Texas decided to go free-market. Yay! We had costs of 26cents / Kw last year. You need to dig a little deeper to see why that actually happened. You may realize that the finger of blame is pointed elsewhere. |
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SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Actually, it is fairly well documented, just like the California "energy crisis" that was manipulated by energy traders in collaboration with the energy provider.
It was a pretty big deal - Enron - remember? |
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 ReformCRTCSupport Your Independent ISP
join:2004-03-07
Canada | reply to SLD
Yikes! It's only 5.5 cents/kwh here. |
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | reply to SLD
Look like electricty in houston is less than 1/2 of that now.
If your electricty was natural gas based, naturgal prices probably had more to do with that price spike than deregulation.
I paid only about 10kwh in Tx last year, but we use more coal than natural gas here. |
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SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | I'm able to get 12 cents per kilowat for renewable this year, but that is more than double what other parts of the country pay. |
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Same thing happened in California when we became unregulated. Well, you saw that in the news a couple of years ago! Greed screwed us. We had electric bills that grew by 5x. It caused many people to leave, or charge those bills on their credit cards that they are now filing bankruptcy on... |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to SLD
The problem with the free market approach to electricity is that there isn't free market competition, so in essence a deregulation of rates is permission to pillage.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | reply to SLD
said by SLD:I'm able to get 12 cents per kilowat for renewable this year, but that is more than double what other parts of the country pay. I think that rate is about normal for most of the country, but yes there are places where it is less expensive. |
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